>I don't think people like doing these bullshit jobs, they do them to survive. Give people UBI and they'll simply quit their telemarketing, soulless middle mana

>I don't think people like doing these bullshit jobs, they do them to survive. Give people UBI and they'll simply quit their telemarketing, soulless middle management, ad tech job I think you're forgetting half the equation...with the possible exception of telemarketing, those jobs go quite a bit beyond mere survival in terms of pay. People will still take those kinds of jobs because the value they get from pay. And that's fine. People value their free time and that's fine too. But I think it's not realistic to think that people in general value their free time so much that if they have enough for survival that they wouldn't take jobs that exchange hard currency for that time. What some combination of UBI/Basic Needs welfare will do, though, is prevent survival from weighing down that choice so people will demand more hard currency than they actually value that time without the infinite value sink of avoiding pain or death. I know plenty of well off people that don't have to worry too much about affording to survive who spend a lot of time working hard and it's perfectly rational considering that they consider themselves better off with the trade.