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Those points are not related to this topic, and derail the conversation. This is not what HN is for. We can start this discussion but it would fully derail anyt

by La1n 6y ago

Those points are not related to this topic, and derail the conversation. This is not what HN is for. We can start this discussion but it would fully derail anything related to Apple redirecting Safe Browsing traffic. It also doesn't answer if a video is truthful, or a law that people talk about actually exists as described.

loceng 6y ago
Gatekeeping the conversation is another bad faith argument, and a control/suppression tactic, and I assume why others are downvoting you; your logic is incongruent as well, we did start the conversation - and then you keep trying to avoid it, you could just not respond if you didn't want to get into it - in fact you opened up the conversation asking a question in regards to the CCP.
dang 6y ago
It's looking like your account is hovering on the edge of using HN primarily for political and/or nationalistic battle. That's a line at which we start considering banning an account, because it's not what this site is for, and it destroys the curious conversation that HN is supposed to exist for. Would you mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and sticking to the rules when posting to HN? We'd appreciate it. More explanation on how and why we moderate HN this way: https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=false&page=0&query=primarily%20test%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme... https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=political%20overlap%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...
- La1n 6y ago
  Can you tell me how to deal with people who bring up unsourced things that I feel aren't (fully) true, or are "fake news"? I agree that I can sometimes get stuck in a discussion, but I also feel like it's harmful to let unsourced claims spread. In this thread I mostly wanted people to source the claims they were making, and for that I got downvoted and called a shill. How should I approach this in the future?

by La1n 6y ago

loceng 6y ago

Gatekeeping the conversation is another bad faith argument, and a control/suppression tactic, and I assume why others are downvoting you; your logic is incongruent as well, we did start the conversation - and then you keep trying to avoid it, you could just not respond if you didn't want to get into it - in fact you opened up the conversation asking a question in regards to the CCP.

dang 6y ago

It's looking like your account is hovering on the edge of using HN primarily for political and/or nationalistic battle. That's a line at which we start considering banning an account, because it's not what this site is for, and it destroys the curious conversation that HN is supposed to exist for. Would you mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and sticking to the rules when posting to HN? We'd appreciate it. More explanation on how and why we moderate HN this way: https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=false&page=0&query=primarily%20test%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme... https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=political%20overlap%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...

La1n 6y ago
Can you tell me how to deal with people who bring up unsourced things that I feel aren't (fully) true, or are "fake news"? I agree that I can sometimes get stuck in a discussion, but I also feel like it's harmful to let unsourced claims spread. In this thread I mostly wanted people to source the claims they were making, and for that I got downvoted and called a shill. How should I approach this in the future?