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"He's gay, that's an important voice that we don't have right now, and he's a man. There are no males on the committee" Having no males on the committee seems
by solosoyokaze 6y ago
"He's gay, that's an important voice that we don't have right now, and he's a man. There are no males on the committee"
Having no males on the committee seems like the biggest issue of them all, especially considering that male performance in education has been suffering for so long. I would argue that having no male voices hurts PoC especially as so many Black and Hispanic men are already being crushed by the system and imprisoned en masse. How does this decision help them and their families?
- dominotw 6y ago> I would argue that having no male voices hurts PoC funny that this the only possible angle we can argue for more male representation. What case do we have for male representation if lack of didn't hurt POC?
- solosoyokaze 6y agoIt's not an "angle", it's a critical situation. I think these stats show why we need more male representation in general and why the situation with PoC should be first in mind: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States#Gender https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_St...
- dominotw 6y agoI wasn't disagreeing with your original comment or the intention behind it. 'angle' prbly wasn't the best choice of word on my part.
- rajin444 6y agoHow do you know what the correct rates of incarceration in the US should be? I've struggled with this question and I'm curious as to how others have arrived on a number. Saying "less" or "more" seems like a way to justify policies with no accountability (i.e, asking to be abused), so I do not use those answers.
- solosoyokaze 6y agoOf course it should be less. Why would it ever be more? We can start by ending the war on drugs, which has imprisoned millions.
- rajin444 6y agoSorry! I was trying to be neutral in my wording - personally I want it to be less. And I like you response - stopping specific instances of discrimination are how I believe we should approach this problem. However, in your other post you pointed to a single statistic that hides an enormous amount of complexity. I assume since you presented that statistic as evidence of a problem, you know what the correct statistic should be. How are you able to tell there's a problem if you don't know what the correct answer is? (this is the part I'm currently struggling with myself)
- solosoyokaze 6y agoI don't know that there's a "correct" number, but it's highly inflated to all other countries and even US historical standards. That it's applied extremely unevenly by race is even more of a problem, especially given the history of policing in the US. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_incarceration_rate#/media/File:US_incarceration_timeline-clean.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_incarceration_ra...
- rajin444 6y agoFocusing on instances of discrimination makes perfect sense - there's a lot of those throughout history. I can't say incarceration rates are applied unevenly because I don't know what the correct answer is, but I see people saying "x% discrepancy in outcome is evidence of discrimination", but I don't know what the correct %'s are, so I don't know how they arrived at that conclusion. How do you know that US rates are highly inflated compared to other countries? And, what is the correct breakdown of incarceration rates by race?
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