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Just FYI, this is bad manners. I deleted the comment because I didn't want to continue the conversation and I especially didn't want to engage with you - specif

Just FYI, this is bad manners. I deleted the comment because I didn't want to continue the conversation and I especially didn't want to engage with you - specifically, your comments here and elsewhere indicate that you are frequently toxic and hostile. You deciding to resurrect the comment because you happened to see it before I deleted it is really not OK. It's the exact kind of toxic hostile, creepy interaction I was trying to avoid from you by deleting the comment!

inetknght 6y ago
> your comments here and elsewhere indicate that you are frequently toxic and hostile I thought your comment was interesting and merited a reply for others to see and discuss. But I see you disagree so I've removed the content of my reply. Feel free to flag any comments you find particularly toxic or hostile. You can do that by clicking on the timestamp of the comment and clicking the `flag` link. Or even better, let me know (like you have done so here). I can't improve myself if I don't know there's a problem.
- vntok 6y ago
  There's no problem with your comment so please do not "improve" yourself based on the parent; they should, not you.
nitrogen 6y ago
Erasing history and demanding others follow your lead is bad manners. Posting something and deleting it after it has been seen is basically gaslighting. Imagine the kinds of harassment people could get away with if they said rude things to coworkers on chat, then edited the messages to appear benign after the coworker responded to their hostility. That is why people quote the text of comments to which they want to reply.
michaelmrose 6y ago
To be clear are we to suppose one has a right to say something and then insist others never bring up anything because one has at that point deleted? Furthermore is strenuous disagreement now toxic and hostile? Wouldn't it be more trivial to say I do not wish to engage and leave it at that? Ironically calling someone toxic hostile and creepy is... pretty toxic.
- inetknght 6y ago
  > are we to suppose one has a right to say something and then insist others never bring up anything because one has at that point deleted? I think someone has the right to change their mind about something they've said. That's why I edited my comment to remove it. > Furthermore is strenuous disagreement now toxic and hostile? I don't think so. But I know that I sometimes get passionate about my opinions. I welcome someone's input to keep me friendly. > Wouldn't it be more trivial to say I do not wish to engage and leave it at that? Ironically calling someone toxic hostile and creepy is... pretty toxic. I would like to think better than that. I think it was good of @ojnabieoot to let me know that they thought I'd wronged them. Some people can feel very anxious or awkward to conversation for very good reasons. They can state opinions and then choose to retract their opinions for any reason -- even if the opinion is held but they choose to remove themselves from the conversation. I think that's a good thing to discuss but this isn't the venue to.

inetknght 6y ago

> your comments here and elsewhere indicate that you are frequently toxic and hostile I thought your comment was interesting and merited a reply for others to see and discuss. But I see you disagree so I've removed the content of my reply. Feel free to flag any comments you find particularly toxic or hostile. You can do that by clicking on the timestamp of the comment and clicking the `flag` link. Or even better, let me know (like you have done so here). I can't improve myself if I don't know there's a problem.

vntok 6y ago
There's no problem with your comment so please do not "improve" yourself based on the parent; they should, not you.

nitrogen 6y ago

Erasing history and demanding others follow your lead is bad manners. Posting something and deleting it after it has been seen is basically gaslighting. Imagine the kinds of harassment people could get away with if they said rude things to coworkers on chat, then edited the messages to appear benign after the coworker responded to their hostility. That is why people quote the text of comments to which they want to reply.

michaelmrose 6y ago

To be clear are we to suppose one has a right to say something and then insist others never bring up anything because one has at that point deleted? Furthermore is strenuous disagreement now toxic and hostile? Wouldn't it be more trivial to say I do not wish to engage and leave it at that? Ironically calling someone toxic hostile and creepy is... pretty toxic.

inetknght 6y ago
> are we to suppose one has a right to say something and then insist others never bring up anything because one has at that point deleted? I think someone has the right to change their mind about something they've said. That's why I edited my comment to remove it. > Furthermore is strenuous disagreement now toxic and hostile? I don't think so. But I know that I sometimes get passionate about my opinions. I welcome someone's input to keep me friendly. > Wouldn't it be more trivial to say I do not wish to engage and leave it at that? Ironically calling someone toxic hostile and creepy is... pretty toxic. I would like to think better than that. I think it was good of @ojnabieoot to let me know that they thought I'd wronged them. Some people can feel very anxious or awkward to conversation for very good reasons. They can state opinions and then choose to retract their opinions for any reason -- even if the opinion is held but they choose to remove themselves from the conversation. I think that's a good thing to discuss but this isn't the venue to.