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But people should have the right to work peace. It should also be a basic human right not to be constantly monitored.
by acd 6y ago
But people should have the right to work peace. It should also be a basic human right not to be constantly monitored.
- joncrane 6y agoLike it or not, I believe that the "expectation of privacy" argument has been settled in courts. The answer is that if you're in public, you have no expectation of privacy. People have dashcams, cameras pointing out the front of their homes and businesses, and people may be recording random TikTok videos with you in the background. Police definitely have zero "expectation of privacy" when out on the job and it's a fairly well established legal fact. Additionally, this information was available at the time they decided to become police officers. IANAL.
- nojokes 6y agoJust mentioning that this is in US. Where I live the dashcams are strictly forbidden like also recording the street in front of your house - police would arrive and destroy your equipment.
- eznzt 6y ago> Like it or not, I believe that the "expectation of privacy" argument has been settled in courts. The answer is that if you're in public, you have no expectation of privacy. That sounds awful. Everybody needs to go out even if it is to buy groceries. What that means is that you can be recorded and there is nothing you can do about it.
- vel0city 6y agoThe alternative is I'm not legally allowed to operate a camera outside unless I get a signed consent release form from everyone who may potentially be in the view of the camera. That doesn't really sound like a better world to me.
- o-__-o 6y agoNothing preventing you from hiring someone to buy groceries for you. Instacart and the like just lowered the entry barrier for the masses.
- ceejayoz 6y agoI am of that general opinion, but not for the small subset of folks the government invests with the power to shoot me.
- heraclius 6y agoOne has the right to any other job. Compare soldiers: generally one probably ought to have the right to unionise, to sick leave, to certain health and safety standards and so on—there are substantial derogations for particular jobs though based on their nature, and the nature of exercising the coercive authority of the state is such that it seems reasonable to demand all sorts of monitoring (when on the job).
- mtnGoat 6y agoThe state constantly monitors the citizens, through actions of their own and contracts with third parties. Police deserve no privacy if they don’t give it. My ¢2.
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- vel0city 6y agoWhen you put on the uniform and wear the badge, you're accepting some additional powers granted to you by society.You're also giving up some freedoms. I think people should generally be allowed to drink, but I don't think cops should be allowed to drink while on duty. It is important for a society to be able to monitor the enforcers of the government, i.e. the police. To me, it seems pretty reasonable for people to be able to record the actions of the police in public spaces, so long as its not impeding the ability for the officers to correctly do their job.
- heavyset_go 6y agoCashiers that make $10 an hour are under more surveillance and public exposure than cops are. And cashiers can't turn off the cameras like cops are able to.