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I also agree. There are so many fundamental issues with Windows that do not seem to be being addressed such as - the entire desktop metaphor (tired, outdated,

I also agree. There are so many fundamental issues with Windows that do not seem to be being addressed such as - the entire desktop metaphor (tired, outdated, can be improved upon) - the entire hierarchical filesystem metaphor likewise - application installation - the registry - WinSxs - seriously, take a look at how much space this directory "wastes" (increasingly important with virtualisation and SSDs) - the start menu - it's not useable, honestly - ribbon UI (don't even get me started) - the whole look and feel of Windows (more akin to Fisher Price than polished glass and aluminium) - the quality of bundled applications - notepad and paint - seriously? in 2011? - I could go on and on and on. If it weren't for the quality of the .NET stack and the jobs market for .NET I would be on Linux/OSX in a flash IMO, Windows merely reflects the beuraucratic uninspired organisation that creates it. This will never change, so really, I shouldn't get so upset, but I have to work with this goddam OS, so it grates a little.

joshhunt 15y ago
I think that this is definitely a step in the right direction - I just wonder how far they will take this. I think it was very obvious that what we saw was a far from polished demo and hopefully they will bridge the gap between the Metro UX and the classic Windows UX. And in defence of the bundled apps, 7 does come with both Wordpad and Notepad. So much better than what OS X bundles.
- Kyashii 15y ago
  Mac OS X comes with TextEdit and Vim, I would say they are far better than Wordpad and Notepad.
  - joshhunt 15y ago
    Seriously? I mean, don't get me wrong: I love OS X and it does pretty much everything better than Windows, and its other bundled apps beat Windows hands down (Mail.app for example), but I really can't say that TextEdit can beat Wordpad http://www.webtechpoint.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/wordpadinwin2007.png http://www.webtechpoint.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/wordp... http://developer.apple.com/ue/accessibility/images/TextEdit.jpeg http://developer.apple.com/ue/accessibility/images/TextEdit....
Lewisham 15y ago
Many of your comments are accurate, but it doesn't mean they are not being worked on. I would be surprised if we don't see new/better bundled applications (particularly for photo/music management, as their other platforms do this better), a different application install paradigm (more akin to OS X or iOS installs), the ribbon was not shown... What they're showing here is intent. That's all. They've shown their intent to do something different. That might well mean they have intent to start changing things under the hood, which was not spoken about at all in that video. It's too early to judge anything but the intent.

joshhunt 15y ago

I think that this is definitely a step in the right direction - I just wonder how far they will take this. I think it was very obvious that what we saw was a far from polished demo and hopefully they will bridge the gap between the Metro UX and the classic Windows UX. And in defence of the bundled apps, 7 does come with both Wordpad and Notepad. So much better than what OS X bundles.

Kyashii 15y ago
Mac OS X comes with TextEdit and Vim, I would say they are far better than Wordpad and Notepad.
- joshhunt 15y ago
  Seriously? I mean, don't get me wrong: I love OS X and it does pretty much everything better than Windows, and its other bundled apps beat Windows hands down (Mail.app for example), but I really can't say that TextEdit can beat Wordpad http://www.webtechpoint.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/wordpadinwin2007.png http://www.webtechpoint.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/wordp... http://developer.apple.com/ue/accessibility/images/TextEdit.jpeg http://developer.apple.com/ue/accessibility/images/TextEdit....

Lewisham 15y ago

Many of your comments are accurate, but it doesn't mean they are not being worked on. I would be surprised if we don't see new/better bundled applications (particularly for photo/music management, as their other platforms do this better), a different application install paradigm (more akin to OS X or iOS installs), the ribbon was not shown... What they're showing here is intent. That's all. They've shown their intent to do something different. That might well mean they have intent to start changing things under the hood, which was not spoken about at all in that video. It's too early to judge anything but the intent.