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> Gartner research shows that 74% of employees expect their employer to become more actively involved in the cultural debates of the day. I believe CEOs will ha

> Gartner research shows that 74% of employees expect their employer to become more actively involved in the cultural debates of the day. I believe CEOs will have to respond in order to retain and attract the best talent. the best talent won't be attracted to those companies long term. they'll seek companies focused on what they are building, focused on a well defined mission. why? because they will get the most done and be more successful than anyone distracted by the day to day Twitter drama.

foolfoolz 6y ago
this is not the experience i have in a large san francisco based company. i think these things are distractions and retarded waste of time. however i am not representative of others who view this involvement as critical to working at the company. or even a reason to apply in the first place. it’s important for hiring and engagement. it has a real impact on people. so you have to be involved or your risk losing a good employee / candidate who falls in this category
mywittyname 6y ago
I disagree. Everyone is interested in shaping the world we live in. Driven people probably more-so than average. I'm already seeing my CEOs responding to cultural changes to attract and retain talent. They are reaching out to local government officials to petition for social change (for example, banding together with local business to have the mayor ban the use of chokeholds by the police). We have a third party audit salaries to ensure there's no gender pay differentials. Maternity & paternity leave is generous and equal. Etc.
- undefined1 6y ago
  > Everyone is interested in shaping the world we live in. Driven people probably more-so than average. yes, so imagine a driven person who wants to solve the food waste problem, and there are two choices: Food Savers A who is focused on developing a method to extend the shelf life of fruits and vegetables. Food Savers B who is less focused on developing a method to extend the shelf life of fruits and vegetables. Food Savers A is much more likely to solve the problem. it's the one that the serious, driven person would choose.
- hogFeast 6y ago
  The way to solve an issue, for example local police behaviour, is to either go into politics or the police (depending on how exactly policing works in your country)...to go directly at the problem. A CEO asking police to do X or Y is literally meaningless. Why are local business people involving themselves in day-to-day policing? That shouldn't happen (and btw, in places where this does happen...it doesn't have good outcomes). Company policy like pay or maternity pay isn't a cultural change. Offer it, don't offer it. Again, people don't realise that this creates a wonderful situation for current management: oh, the last management was terrible, they didn't give you this thing, I am giving it you, I am woke...what a letoff. Cultural change isn't about free goodies, and giving your staff maternity pay doesn't mean you care. If you care about maternity pay as an issue in itself, go into politics. It sounds like you are in the wrong job.
  - mywittyname 6y ago
    > A CEO asking police to do X or Y is literally meaningless. Why are local business people involving themselves in day-to-day policing? Not sure if you're aware, but America has a serious issue with abuse by police, especially against black Americans. A few months ago, events in the news caused many people to take a serious look at what is going on. Many of my colleagues are black, and wanted to share their personal stories. As a result, we all got together and brainstormed ideas for how we could tackle these issues and make our world just a little bit better for everyone. That was one of several suggestions and it worked. The idea comes from a list of proven ways to reduce police-related deaths (I don't recall the author, but I believe it was shared on HN). > It sounds like you are in the wrong job. I'm very happy to work for a company that dedicates time and money to improving our world. You might see business as only business. I don't. I think companies should use some of their profits to help those who are less fortunate, and charitable contributions and general social awareness are things I consider when job hunting.
konjin 6y ago
The best talent is not 75% of the work force. In this day and age having a rainbow flag or blm whatever is the equivalent of being 'a Christian company' in the 70s and 80s. All I hear is 'we will pay you less because we will make you feel better, then outsource your job the second it takes 1 cent less to do so'. I prefer my companies honestly evil.

foolfoolz 6y ago

this is not the experience i have in a large san francisco based company. i think these things are distractions and retarded waste of time. however i am not representative of others who view this involvement as critical to working at the company. or even a reason to apply in the first place. it’s important for hiring and engagement. it has a real impact on people. so you have to be involved or your risk losing a good employee / candidate who falls in this category

mywittyname 6y ago

I disagree. Everyone is interested in shaping the world we live in. Driven people probably more-so than average. I'm already seeing my CEOs responding to cultural changes to attract and retain talent. They are reaching out to local government officials to petition for social change (for example, banding together with local business to have the mayor ban the use of chokeholds by the police). We have a third party audit salaries to ensure there's no gender pay differentials. Maternity & paternity leave is generous and equal. Etc.

undefined1 6y ago
> Everyone is interested in shaping the world we live in. Driven people probably more-so than average. yes, so imagine a driven person who wants to solve the food waste problem, and there are two choices: Food Savers A who is focused on developing a method to extend the shelf life of fruits and vegetables. Food Savers B who is less focused on developing a method to extend the shelf life of fruits and vegetables. Food Savers A is much more likely to solve the problem. it's the one that the serious, driven person would choose.
hogFeast 6y ago
The way to solve an issue, for example local police behaviour, is to either go into politics or the police (depending on how exactly policing works in your country)...to go directly at the problem. A CEO asking police to do X or Y is literally meaningless. Why are local business people involving themselves in day-to-day policing? That shouldn't happen (and btw, in places where this does happen...it doesn't have good outcomes). Company policy like pay or maternity pay isn't a cultural change. Offer it, don't offer it. Again, people don't realise that this creates a wonderful situation for current management: oh, the last management was terrible, they didn't give you this thing, I am giving it you, I am woke...what a letoff. Cultural change isn't about free goodies, and giving your staff maternity pay doesn't mean you care. If you care about maternity pay as an issue in itself, go into politics. It sounds like you are in the wrong job.
- mywittyname 6y ago
  > A CEO asking police to do X or Y is literally meaningless. Why are local business people involving themselves in day-to-day policing? Not sure if you're aware, but America has a serious issue with abuse by police, especially against black Americans. A few months ago, events in the news caused many people to take a serious look at what is going on. Many of my colleagues are black, and wanted to share their personal stories. As a result, we all got together and brainstormed ideas for how we could tackle these issues and make our world just a little bit better for everyone. That was one of several suggestions and it worked. The idea comes from a list of proven ways to reduce police-related deaths (I don't recall the author, but I believe it was shared on HN). > It sounds like you are in the wrong job. I'm very happy to work for a company that dedicates time and money to improving our world. You might see business as only business. I don't. I think companies should use some of their profits to help those who are less fortunate, and charitable contributions and general social awareness are things I consider when job hunting.

konjin 6y ago

The best talent is not 75% of the work force. In this day and age having a rainbow flag or blm whatever is the equivalent of being 'a Christian company' in the 70s and 80s. All I hear is 'we will pay you less because we will make you feel better, then outsource your job the second it takes 1 cent less to do so'. I prefer my companies honestly evil.