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Are zombies such a big problem , given modern weapons and armies/police ?

by petra 6y ago

dagw 6y ago
Have you read World War Z? It covers that very question in great detail. One problem it highlights is that modern armies and military tactics are incredibly inefficient. The amount of fuel, munitions and calories they use for every kill is staggering. Also much of modern military tactics are based around putting on a massive show of force up front and hoping the enemy surrenders or retreats. That is not a problem if you only have to kill a few thousand people who's spirit to fight can be broken, and you're backed up by a fully functional logistics network. Remove the logistics network and face off against an 'army' of hunderds of thousands of enemies that will never retreat then those tactics will quickly see your fuel and munition stores depleted. Towards the end of the book the Army has reinvented the infantry square and equipped all their soldiers with bolt action rifles to stop them wasting ammo.
- ClumsyPilot 6y ago
  World war Z is cool, but it's a fantazy. For example it pretends that tanks can't drive through a zombie horde because the tracks would come off. Thats conoletely absurd - tanks can drive through trees, let alone people, tank crews call infantry 'crunchies'. If you want to see how a zombie horde would fare on a battlefield, look at how infantry and cavalary charges did against ww1 machineguns. It would be like that, but 10x worse. Besides, there is the whole issue of zombies rotting and concervation of energy - after a few months they should turn to rotten goo, or motionless husks.
  - dagw 6y ago
    It would be like that, but 10x worse. Oh absolutely and I think the book agrees. I recall them describing battles where the piles of dead zombies where so high the soldiers couldn't see the next wave approaching. The hard part was never killing zombies but making sure you killed all the zombies before you ran out of fuel and bullets.
  - notjustanymike 6y ago
    In WWZ, the battle of Yonkers highlighted some of the issues with traditional military techniques. The zombies had superior numbers (millions!) and required a headshot to take down. The shock and awe doctrine of the military worked on the first ten thousand zombies or so, but they keep coming. Machine guns lack the accuracy to stop a zombie completely, and have a limited capacity relative to millions of attackers. Tanks would be able to run over zombies, but eventually would be swamped or simply run out of fuel. All the strategies relied on fighting an enemy with human emotions and a survival instinct, the two things zombies lack.
- kyriakos 6y ago
  Based on what I saw in the movie, didn't read the book the rate of infection is unrealistic, at least the time it takes from initial exposure to full on aggressive zombie mode was a few seconds. Realistically this would take much longer than that which means we won't end up with hordes of zombies instantly.
notjustanymike 6y ago
Armies and police are fallible even when facing a known threat. There's a trial going on in the American senate right now about that...
beyondCritics 6y ago
Your main problem in the long run is, that zombies are infectious. Imagine that in every water hole and in every dark place could be a zombie sleeping... The virus could mutate and infect animals or insects.

Are zombies such a big problem , given modern weapons and armies/police ?

by petra 6y ago

Are zombies such a big problem , given modern weapons and armies/police ?

dagw 6y ago

Have you read World War Z? It covers that very question in great detail. One problem it highlights is that modern armies and military tactics are incredibly inefficient. The amount of fuel, munitions and calories they use for every kill is staggering. Also much of modern military tactics are based around putting on a massive show of force up front and hoping the enemy surrenders or retreats. That is not a problem if you only have to kill a few thousand people who's spirit to fight can be broken, and you're backed up by a fully functional logistics network. Remove the logistics network and face off against an 'army' of hunderds of thousands of enemies that will never retreat then those tactics will quickly see your fuel and munition stores depleted. Towards the end of the book the Army has reinvented the infantry square and equipped all their soldiers with bolt action rifles to stop them wasting ammo.

ClumsyPilot 6y ago
World war Z is cool, but it's a fantazy. For example it pretends that tanks can't drive through a zombie horde because the tracks would come off. Thats conoletely absurd - tanks can drive through trees, let alone people, tank crews call infantry 'crunchies'. If you want to see how a zombie horde would fare on a battlefield, look at how infantry and cavalary charges did against ww1 machineguns. It would be like that, but 10x worse. Besides, there is the whole issue of zombies rotting and concervation of energy - after a few months they should turn to rotten goo, or motionless husks.
- dagw 6y ago
  It would be like that, but 10x worse. Oh absolutely and I think the book agrees. I recall them describing battles where the piles of dead zombies where so high the soldiers couldn't see the next wave approaching. The hard part was never killing zombies but making sure you killed all the zombies before you ran out of fuel and bullets.
- notjustanymike 6y ago
  In WWZ, the battle of Yonkers highlighted some of the issues with traditional military techniques. The zombies had superior numbers (millions!) and required a headshot to take down. The shock and awe doctrine of the military worked on the first ten thousand zombies or so, but they keep coming. Machine guns lack the accuracy to stop a zombie completely, and have a limited capacity relative to millions of attackers. Tanks would be able to run over zombies, but eventually would be swamped or simply run out of fuel. All the strategies relied on fighting an enemy with human emotions and a survival instinct, the two things zombies lack.
kyriakos 6y ago
Based on what I saw in the movie, didn't read the book the rate of infection is unrealistic, at least the time it takes from initial exposure to full on aggressive zombie mode was a few seconds. Realistically this would take much longer than that which means we won't end up with hordes of zombies instantly.

notjustanymike 6y ago

Armies and police are fallible even when facing a known threat. There's a trial going on in the American senate right now about that...

beyondCritics 6y ago

Your main problem in the long run is, that zombies are infectious. Imagine that in every water hole and in every dark place could be a zombie sleeping... The virus could mutate and infect animals or insects.