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I for one think changing human nature is harder than creating an appetite suppressing drug, and indeed it seems we arrived on the latter earlier. So if it works

I for one think changing human nature is harder than creating an appetite suppressing drug, and indeed it seems we arrived on the latter earlier. So if it works it works, right?

animal_spirits 6y ago
I think it is better for humans to be able to control themselves than be controlled by pills.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y ago
  It is my choice to use drugs to assist in achieving my life goals. I've been doing it without drugs for a decade now and it's fucking hard and I don't appreciate assholes who imply otherwise.
  - animal_spirits 6y ago
    I'm not shaming you or anyone for taking drugs, not at all. I think drugs can be great and can do great things for a lot of people. I take certain drugs myself on occasion. What I am trying to say is that someone might not be able to control their appetite, but they do have at least some control over the food they put in their body. I think that education on nutrition can go a much longer way for overall human health than appetite pills.
    - AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y ago
      Having lost over 150lbs and kept most of it off for about a decade, I disagree. Knowledge about nutrition[0] is insufficient. The only reason I was able to do this at all was that I was in a very low-stress period of my life at the start and after that I have had to put a whole lot of effort into not ballooning up again, to the extent that my behavior patterns were described as an eating disorder. I am hardly unique in this. I would argue that to lose and keep off this kind of weight without chemical assistance (good fucking luck getting a doctor to help there) pretty much necessitates the development of an eating disorder. It takes over a significant portion of your life and is no fucking fun at all. Give me an apatite pill any day. [0] this is without even mentioning how difficult it is to find information on nutrition that isn't complete bullshit pushed by people selling fads.
  - P_I_Staker 6y ago
    By that logic shouldn't we be able to take steroid, or at least HGH, and other performance enhancing drugs that are less dangerous than steroids? Lots of people do less crazy amounts and don't have problems. Plenty of people have lived full lives after juicing, possibly even better lives. I'm not saying either way, just food for thought. If we banned something because you might get cancer alcohol, cigs, and junk food would be banned too.

I for one think changing human nature is harder than creating an appetite suppressing drug, and indeed it seems we arrived on the latter earlier. So if it works it works, right?

animal_spirits 6y ago

I think it is better for humans to be able to control themselves than be controlled by pills.

AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y ago
It is my choice to use drugs to assist in achieving my life goals. I've been doing it without drugs for a decade now and it's fucking hard and I don't appreciate assholes who imply otherwise.
- animal_spirits 6y ago
  I'm not shaming you or anyone for taking drugs, not at all. I think drugs can be great and can do great things for a lot of people. I take certain drugs myself on occasion. What I am trying to say is that someone might not be able to control their appetite, but they do have at least some control over the food they put in their body. I think that education on nutrition can go a much longer way for overall human health than appetite pills.
  - AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y ago
    Having lost over 150lbs and kept most of it off for about a decade, I disagree. Knowledge about nutrition[0] is insufficient. The only reason I was able to do this at all was that I was in a very low-stress period of my life at the start and after that I have had to put a whole lot of effort into not ballooning up again, to the extent that my behavior patterns were described as an eating disorder. I am hardly unique in this. I would argue that to lose and keep off this kind of weight without chemical assistance (good fucking luck getting a doctor to help there) pretty much necessitates the development of an eating disorder. It takes over a significant portion of your life and is no fucking fun at all. Give me an apatite pill any day. [0] this is without even mentioning how difficult it is to find information on nutrition that isn't complete bullshit pushed by people selling fads.
- P_I_Staker 6y ago
  By that logic shouldn't we be able to take steroid, or at least HGH, and other performance enhancing drugs that are less dangerous than steroids? Lots of people do less crazy amounts and don't have problems. Plenty of people have lived full lives after juicing, possibly even better lives. I'm not saying either way, just food for thought. If we banned something because you might get cancer alcohol, cigs, and junk food would be banned too.