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It looks like some sort of dispute or contractual issue between Notion and and the .so registry, or a complete messup by the registry. From a whois of notion.s

It looks like some sort of dispute or contractual issue between Notion and and the .so registry, or a complete messup by the registry. From a whois of notion.so: Updated Date: 2021-02-12T12:54:35.982Z Creation Date: 2015-03-31T00:00:00.0Z Registry Expiry Date: 2021-03-31T00:00:00.0Z Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2021-03-31T00:00:00.0Z Domain Status: clientHold https://icann.org/epp#clientHold https://icann.org/epp#clientHold

yawnxyz 6y ago
I don't understand why they're using the Somalian TLD when they also own .com How reliable are these other TLDs like emerging country TLDs like .ly (Libya), .co (Colombia) or .so (Somalia)? Could you just get shut down overnight?
- cs-szazz 6y ago
  If I understand correctly, the .so TLD is effectively a national resource of Somalia, and as such they have total control over it and could in fact shut it down if they wanted.
- bombcar 6y ago
  Any domain is entirely at the mercy of the registrar, and for country domains that's entirely in the country itself. It's amusing to me that some of the most "desirable" country domains are also coincidentally some of the most unstable countries.
  - tephra 6y ago
    This is not entirely true. For example the .se domain is not controlled by the Swedish government but is administered by The Swedish Internet Foundation which is a private foundation (source I work there..). It is (now) regulated somewhat by law.
    - bombcar 6y ago
      Perhaps, but a private foundation in Sweden is subject to the laws thereof - if Sweden wanted to regain complete control there's not much your foundation could do.
- burkaman 6y ago
  Libya has been known to shut down websites they don't like: https://www.neowin.net/news/nicly-down-as-libyas-response-to-vbly-takedown-spreads https://www.neowin.net/news/nicly-down-as-libyas-response-to...
square_usual 6y ago
This should be a good lesson to get a domain on a reliable registry.
cs-szazz 6y ago
> It is an uncommon status that is usually enacted during legal disputes, non-payment, or when your domain is subject to deletion. Serious question, if this is an extended legal dispute or the domain is actually subject to deletion, that would be hugely damaging to the Notion brand right? I ask because I can't think of another company that's had a similar issue lately, so I find the domain dispute an interesting issue that we rarely see get to this stage.
alberth 6y ago
I never understood why notion continued to use notion.so when they own notion.com and you don’t have to worry about countries (ccTLD) doing things like this.
- arnvald 6y ago
  I guess it's been somewhere in their backlog with "impact: medium, urgency: low" for ages, so it never got to the top of the list and never got done. I'm also quite sure it's got updated to "urgency: high" today

yawnxyz 6y ago

I don't understand why they're using the Somalian TLD when they also own .com How reliable are these other TLDs like emerging country TLDs like .ly (Libya), .co (Colombia) or .so (Somalia)? Could you just get shut down overnight?

cs-szazz 6y ago
If I understand correctly, the .so TLD is effectively a national resource of Somalia, and as such they have total control over it and could in fact shut it down if they wanted.
bombcar 6y ago
Any domain is entirely at the mercy of the registrar, and for country domains that's entirely in the country itself. It's amusing to me that some of the most "desirable" country domains are also coincidentally some of the most unstable countries.
- tephra 6y ago
  This is not entirely true. For example the .se domain is not controlled by the Swedish government but is administered by The Swedish Internet Foundation which is a private foundation (source I work there..). It is (now) regulated somewhat by law.
  - bombcar 6y ago
    Perhaps, but a private foundation in Sweden is subject to the laws thereof - if Sweden wanted to regain complete control there's not much your foundation could do.
burkaman 6y ago
Libya has been known to shut down websites they don't like: https://www.neowin.net/news/nicly-down-as-libyas-response-to-vbly-takedown-spreads https://www.neowin.net/news/nicly-down-as-libyas-response-to...

square_usual 6y ago

This should be a good lesson to get a domain on a reliable registry.

cs-szazz 6y ago

> It is an uncommon status that is usually enacted during legal disputes, non-payment, or when your domain is subject to deletion. Serious question, if this is an extended legal dispute or the domain is actually subject to deletion, that would be hugely damaging to the Notion brand right? I ask because I can't think of another company that's had a similar issue lately, so I find the domain dispute an interesting issue that we rarely see get to this stage.

alberth 6y ago

I never understood why notion continued to use notion.so when they own notion.com and you don’t have to worry about countries (ccTLD) doing things like this.

arnvald 6y ago
I guess it's been somewhere in their backlog with "impact: medium, urgency: low" for ages, so it never got to the top of the list and never got done. I'm also quite sure it's got updated to "urgency: high" today