Emacs has a long history with so many versions and editors with "emacs" in the name but not necessarily what we think of emacs today. https://en.wikipedia.org/

Emacs has a long history with so many versions and editors with "emacs" in the name but not necessarily what we think of emacs today. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emacs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emacs In the 1970's there was TECO and then E. Emacs kind of grew out of these editors. James Gosling of Java fame had his own Gosling Emacs version that I believe was sold for money GNU Emacs only started in 1984 and had its initial release in 1985. This interview is from 1984 so we would need to know what version of Emacs is Bill Joy referring to specifically. Also before fast internet connections the FSF used to sell GNU tools on tape and then CD This newsletter from 1994 says the CD costs $400. I don't know what the price was in 1984 but maybe Bill Joy is referring to that but the Free Software Foundation was only founded in 1985. https://www.gnu.org/bulletins/bull16.html#SEC38 https://www.gnu.org/bulletins/bull16.html#SEC38