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Software update and other features already expose your IP address to Apple. This solution doesn't add another company, so that's a win.

izacus 6y ago
Giving all your information to a single company where it's easily pooled and abused is a win?
- simonh 6y ago
  No, it’s segmenting which information goes to which company. Apple already has your IP address so why also give it to Google? Meanwhile the https traffic is only proxied through Apple, so they don’t see the content.
- tchalla 6y ago
  Apple doesn’t collect and use information the same way Google does.
  - vntok 6y ago
    It is true, Apple handles it way worse. With Google you have access to a whole dashboard where they explain in very simple terms what they know about you (per service) and how they use that information. And of course you can opt-out with a few clicks.
    - tchalla 6y ago
      It’s interesting that one using data as a selling point is worse than one that doesn’t. In any case, Apple gives you access to all information they have on you and you can opt-out with a click. I’m not sure that’s a differentiator in any case.
    - rgovostes 6y ago
      Apple has the same thing[0]. A journalist requested their data from Apple, Google, and Facebook a few years ago[1], > The zip file I eventually received from Apple was tiny, only 9 megabytes, compared to 243 MB from Google and 881 MB from Facebook. And there's not much there, because Apple says the information is primarily kept on your device, not its servers. The one sentence highlight: a list of my downloads, purchases and repairs, but not my search histories through the Siri personal assistant or the Safari browser. Also curious how, if as you say Google is so transparent with this information, they abruptly stopped updating all of their iOS apps on December 8th, the day that Apple required them to publish the data that their apps collect[2,3]. 0: https://privacy.apple.com/ https://privacy.apple.com/ 1: https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2018/05/04/asked-apple-everything-had-me-heres-what-got/558362002/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2018/05/04/a... 2: https://twitter.com/Thomasbcn/status/1356645088697454596 https://twitter.com/Thomasbcn/status/1356645088697454596 3: https://www.macrumors.com/2021/01/05/google-hasnt-updated-ios-apps-since-privacy-labels/ https://www.macrumors.com/2021/01/05/google-hasnt-updated-io...

izacus 6y ago

Giving all your information to a single company where it's easily pooled and abused is a win?

simonh 6y ago
No, it’s segmenting which information goes to which company. Apple already has your IP address so why also give it to Google? Meanwhile the https traffic is only proxied through Apple, so they don’t see the content.
tchalla 6y ago
Apple doesn’t collect and use information the same way Google does.
- vntok 6y ago
  It is true, Apple handles it way worse. With Google you have access to a whole dashboard where they explain in very simple terms what they know about you (per service) and how they use that information. And of course you can opt-out with a few clicks.
  - tchalla 6y ago
    It’s interesting that one using data as a selling point is worse than one that doesn’t. In any case, Apple gives you access to all information they have on you and you can opt-out with a click. I’m not sure that’s a differentiator in any case.
  - rgovostes 6y ago
    Apple has the same thing[0]. A journalist requested their data from Apple, Google, and Facebook a few years ago[1], > The zip file I eventually received from Apple was tiny, only 9 megabytes, compared to 243 MB from Google and 881 MB from Facebook. And there's not much there, because Apple says the information is primarily kept on your device, not its servers. The one sentence highlight: a list of my downloads, purchases and repairs, but not my search histories through the Siri personal assistant or the Safari browser. Also curious how, if as you say Google is so transparent with this information, they abruptly stopped updating all of their iOS apps on December 8th, the day that Apple required them to publish the data that their apps collect[2,3]. 0: https://privacy.apple.com/ https://privacy.apple.com/ 1: https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2018/05/04/asked-apple-everything-had-me-heres-what-got/558362002/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2018/05/04/a... 2: https://twitter.com/Thomasbcn/status/1356645088697454596 https://twitter.com/Thomasbcn/status/1356645088697454596 3: https://www.macrumors.com/2021/01/05/google-hasnt-updated-ios-apps-since-privacy-labels/ https://www.macrumors.com/2021/01/05/google-hasnt-updated-io...