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What is fair about this? That there is more than one dishonest asshole out there? Sure, that's true. Does it make them any less of an asshole if someone else i

What is fair about this? That there is more than one dishonest asshole out there? Sure, that's true. Does it make them any less of an asshole if someone else is also being an asshole? Not in my eyes. Whenever someone acts like an asshole, I stop my dealings with them, avoid any interactions. With humans, that means no longer talking with them, calling them, or messaging them. With an online service, that means saving my data and deleting my account, never installing their app, never going to their website, creating a straight-to-trash filter for their email. In both cases, I will share my knowledge about them close ones if it can save them some grief.

lmm 6y ago
There's something icky about singling out one individual for something a lot of others are doing at the same time, especially if you're in a community that praises those others.
- scubbo 6y ago
  > especially if you're in a community that praises those others I was with you until this part. I have never seen praise of any large social network _or_ any growth-hacking dark patterns on HN.
  - oblio 6y ago
    You're not looking around enough. What do you think all those articles about marketing, promoting your startup & co., getting to $Nk passive income per month are about? Look past the flowery language.
  - pwdisswordfish6 6y ago
    Look at how many people are willing to ignore GitHub's transgressions. The privacy controls it provides are objectively worse than the other big companies that serve as the go-to examples when people try pointing to evil social networks. You can also step back and watch discussion of its dark patterns get buried in downvotes and illogical, half-thought out responses that attempt to rationalize them as Good Decisions that Make Sense, as if they're selected for any other reason than to drive up user acquisition and engagement.

lmm 6y ago

There's something icky about singling out one individual for something a lot of others are doing at the same time, especially if you're in a community that praises those others.

scubbo 6y ago
> especially if you're in a community that praises those others I was with you until this part. I have never seen praise of any large social network _or_ any growth-hacking dark patterns on HN.
- oblio 6y ago
  You're not looking around enough. What do you think all those articles about marketing, promoting your startup & co., getting to $Nk passive income per month are about? Look past the flowery language.
- pwdisswordfish6 6y ago
  Look at how many people are willing to ignore GitHub's transgressions. The privacy controls it provides are objectively worse than the other big companies that serve as the go-to examples when people try pointing to evil social networks. You can also step back and watch discussion of its dark patterns get buried in downvotes and illogical, half-thought out responses that attempt to rationalize them as Good Decisions that Make Sense, as if they're selected for any other reason than to drive up user acquisition and engagement.