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80% of Toyotas ever made are still on the road[0]. I know plenty of people who drive Toyotas older than they are. I have high doubts most Teslas won't be bricke

by knolax 6y ago

80% of Toyotas ever made are still on the road[0]. I know plenty of people who drive Toyotas older than they are. I have high doubts most Teslas won't be bricked by poor software within the decade. [0] https://www.toyotaofnaperville.com/80-of-toyotas-vehicles-still-on-the-road-today/ https://www.toyotaofnaperville.com/80-of-toyotas-vehicles-st...

throwaway0a5e 6y ago
It takes something beyond hubris to trust a dealer's claim on an issue like that. The OEMs are always creating crafted studies to underlying claims like that for their advertising campaigns. Dodge was running a similiar claim in their ads awhile back.
- mikestew 6y ago
  I've often wondered if 80% of everything isn't still on the road. Depending on one's source, 70% of Harley-Davidson motorcycles are still on the road. Not only does Harley go back over 100 years, they made some real shit over the years (hello, 70s AMC Harleys). But if 70% of those are still running, I have no problem believing 80% of just about any make of vehicle are still going.
  - Aeronwen 6y ago
    AMF, not AMC.
    - mikestew 6y ago
      Of course, good catch. Whether or not 80% of AMCs are still on the road would be an interesting question.
mikestew 6y ago
80% of Toyotas ever made are still on the road[0]. ...the rest made it home. But in seriousness, that's exactly what I've been thinking in general, and especially reading this article: Teslas aren't going to age well. I hope I'm wrong, because I don't wish mechanical failure on anyone's car, but even Toyotas get a little loose with one or two hundred thousand miles. What's going to happen to those one-off production line mods to get the car out the door ten years from now? Now we're seeing eMMC failures for which Tesla is trying to charge the customer (seems those that can afford a Model S could easily afford a lawyer, too; but I digress). I don't have a smoking gun to point to, but much like code smell these just don't smell like devices that you'll pass on to your kid when she gets her license ten years down the road.

by knolax 6y ago

throwaway0a5e 6y ago

It takes something beyond hubris to trust a dealer's claim on an issue like that. The OEMs are always creating crafted studies to underlying claims like that for their advertising campaigns. Dodge was running a similiar claim in their ads awhile back.

mikestew 6y ago
I've often wondered if 80% of everything isn't still on the road. Depending on one's source, 70% of Harley-Davidson motorcycles are still on the road. Not only does Harley go back over 100 years, they made some real shit over the years (hello, 70s AMC Harleys). But if 70% of those are still running, I have no problem believing 80% of just about any make of vehicle are still going.
- Aeronwen 6y ago
  AMF, not AMC.
  - mikestew 6y ago
    Of course, good catch. Whether or not 80% of AMCs are still on the road would be an interesting question.

mikestew 6y ago

80% of Toyotas ever made are still on the road[0]. ...the rest made it home. But in seriousness, that's exactly what I've been thinking in general, and especially reading this article: Teslas aren't going to age well. I hope I'm wrong, because I don't wish mechanical failure on anyone's car, but even Toyotas get a little loose with one or two hundred thousand miles. What's going to happen to those one-off production line mods to get the car out the door ten years from now? Now we're seeing eMMC failures for which Tesla is trying to charge the customer (seems those that can afford a Model S could easily afford a lawyer, too; but I digress). I don't have a smoking gun to point to, but much like code smell these just don't smell like devices that you'll pass on to your kid when she gets her license ten years down the road.