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Well he also started a spread of snark that made the entire industry look bad. His own site is called destroy all software. Even if that is meant to be ironic,

by th0ma5 6y ago

Well he also started a spread of snark that made the entire industry look bad. His own site is called destroy all software. Even if that is meant to be ironic, even that irony isn't helpful.

eyelidlessness 6y ago
I sincerely think you’re taking Gary and the software industry too seriously. Wat is nowhere near as reputation damaging as, say, “PHP a fractal of bad design”, and PHP is doing great. People have aped the talk to highlight rough corners in their own preferred ecosystems. It’s fun. Programming is dealing with a lot of broken stuff. Embrace it and have a laugh.
- th0ma5 6y ago
  I did that day I first saw it, and then after three years of people pointing and laughing at how awful computers are for upvotes and likes it stopped being funny.
  - eyelidlessness 6y ago
    They’re not laughing at you, in case you need to hear that. And it’s not computers that they’re laughing at either. It’s human mistakes, misjudgments, and so on. I’m exceptionally talented as a software developer and I make absolutely boneheaded decision, designs and mistakes sometimes. I find it comforting when I just accept my imperfections. I’m more likely to attach an everythingisterrible.gif to my own PR than anything else. It’s made me feel more at ease with myself and my craft to lighten up and have a casual cynicism about the whole thing. Computers aren’t bad but most of what happens on them is. And that’s okay. Most of everything is bad, in varying degrees. At least the silly bad stuff brings a smile to people’s faces.
    - th0ma5 6y ago
      No I totally get this. But the cynicism has been relentless since this online, and contagious, and many use it as an in joke, and this is serious stuff. People's careers... 6 hour conference calls involving tens of experts trying to get to the bottom of these things. Most of these things are just people doing things outside of the language spec and then are somehow surprised when it doesn't work and then make a joke of it all and I don't see how that helps anything. Again, it was funny at the beginning, but now I really wonder if these people just want to hurt other people by being abusive with this incessant snark. Perhaps this an Eternal September issue, so maybe you're somewhat new, but shitting on things is easy.

by th0ma5 6y ago

Well he also started a spread of snark that made the entire industry look bad. His own site is called destroy all software. Even if that is meant to be ironic, even that irony isn't helpful.

eyelidlessness 6y ago

I sincerely think you’re taking Gary and the software industry too seriously. Wat is nowhere near as reputation damaging as, say, “PHP a fractal of bad design”, and PHP is doing great. People have aped the talk to highlight rough corners in their own preferred ecosystems. It’s fun. Programming is dealing with a lot of broken stuff. Embrace it and have a laugh.

th0ma5 6y ago
I did that day I first saw it, and then after three years of people pointing and laughing at how awful computers are for upvotes and likes it stopped being funny.
- eyelidlessness 6y ago
  They’re not laughing at you, in case you need to hear that. And it’s not computers that they’re laughing at either. It’s human mistakes, misjudgments, and so on. I’m exceptionally talented as a software developer and I make absolutely boneheaded decision, designs and mistakes sometimes. I find it comforting when I just accept my imperfections. I’m more likely to attach an everythingisterrible.gif to my own PR than anything else. It’s made me feel more at ease with myself and my craft to lighten up and have a casual cynicism about the whole thing. Computers aren’t bad but most of what happens on them is. And that’s okay. Most of everything is bad, in varying degrees. At least the silly bad stuff brings a smile to people’s faces.
  - th0ma5 6y ago
    No I totally get this. But the cynicism has been relentless since this online, and contagious, and many use it as an in joke, and this is serious stuff. People's careers... 6 hour conference calls involving tens of experts trying to get to the bottom of these things. Most of these things are just people doing things outside of the language spec and then are somehow surprised when it doesn't work and then make a joke of it all and I don't see how that helps anything. Again, it was funny at the beginning, but now I really wonder if these people just want to hurt other people by being abusive with this incessant snark. Perhaps this an Eternal September issue, so maybe you're somewhat new, but shitting on things is easy.