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AMA from a vacuum technician: https://old.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/7gmsoe/iama_reddits_own_vacuum_repair_tech_with_a_very/ https://old.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comme

AMA from a vacuum technician: https://old.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/7gmsoe/iama_reddits_own_vacuum_repair_tech_with_a_very/ https://old.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/7gmsoe/iama_reddits_o... IIRC he recommends Miele vacuums.

TorKlingberg 6y ago
I am sort of worried that a lot of internet sentiments go back to just one person. I also have a vaguely negative impression of Dyson, and realized it came from that same Reddit thread. It feels like every internet community just recycles information from previous threads and only rarely gets input from reality. FWIW, I have a Dyson wireless handheld vacuum. It's pretty good, but I can't way if it's worth the price.
- patrickk 6y ago
  It's not only that thread that is giving Dyson a bad name. They've been selling overhyped, over-marketed products for years. I've heard the same from multiple sources. As multiple commenters have said here, they're like Bose in that aspect. They're not bad as such, but there are much better products out there that are not heavily marketed.
Guest19023892 6y ago
I was in the market for a vacuum last year and followed the advice in that topic. I bought a used Miele C1 Compact for $80. Great vacuum for my small apartment and I've been very happy with the purchase. I remember seeing the Dyson Ball vacuum the first time in the store and being incredibly underwhelmed after all the marketing on TV. It was heavy, and felt like a bunch of cheap plastic that was going to break apart. Then I tried a few of those handheld Dyson vacuums in different Airbnbs I lived for a while. They were a pain to clean, hair would get caught in the spinning brushes, and the battery life on all of them was terrible (one would only last about 2 minutes, likely because the battery was aging). It always feels like marketing and "cool" gimmicks come first with Dyson products and the actual quality is second.
bscphil 6y ago
> Dollar for dollar, a bagged vacuum, when compared to a bagless, will almost always: ... Cost less to repair and maintain (Often including consumables). He says elsewhere in the thread that "you're going to budget more than [$400] if you want a quality vacuum". He calls anything under $200 "pure shit". He recommends cleaning the brush roller monthly, and changing the belt in the vacuum yearly. He recommends a brand that sells a pack of bags and a filter for $100 that's "a 2 year supply". Sometimes I wonder if people in threads like this Reddit thread live in the same universe as me. So many times it's cult-think to justify spending absurd amounts of money. (E.g. "obviously that $200 fountain pen is going to write so much better than a $30 Lamy.") The trap is when you start thinking "people who really care about X buy Y brand", and then you start thinking that way about everything. For reference, I own an upright bagless Black and Decker that I bought from my local big box store for ~$70 over five years ago. I have never replaced any parts. I've cleaned out the brush maybe once in that time. It still sucks just as much as it does when I bought it (you can fill up half the damn canister on one vacuuming run). Even granting that I could get a bagged vacuum that would last the rest of my life for free, the $50+ a year for maintenance would cost me more. (Granted, a more expensive vacuum would probably clean better by some metric, but this vacuum does not leave any noticeable dust or debris or my very low pile carpet.)

TorKlingberg 6y ago

I am sort of worried that a lot of internet sentiments go back to just one person. I also have a vaguely negative impression of Dyson, and realized it came from that same Reddit thread. It feels like every internet community just recycles information from previous threads and only rarely gets input from reality. FWIW, I have a Dyson wireless handheld vacuum. It's pretty good, but I can't way if it's worth the price.

patrickk 6y ago
It's not only that thread that is giving Dyson a bad name. They've been selling overhyped, over-marketed products for years. I've heard the same from multiple sources. As multiple commenters have said here, they're like Bose in that aspect. They're not bad as such, but there are much better products out there that are not heavily marketed.

Guest19023892 6y ago

I was in the market for a vacuum last year and followed the advice in that topic. I bought a used Miele C1 Compact for $80. Great vacuum for my small apartment and I've been very happy with the purchase. I remember seeing the Dyson Ball vacuum the first time in the store and being incredibly underwhelmed after all the marketing on TV. It was heavy, and felt like a bunch of cheap plastic that was going to break apart. Then I tried a few of those handheld Dyson vacuums in different Airbnbs I lived for a while. They were a pain to clean, hair would get caught in the spinning brushes, and the battery life on all of them was terrible (one would only last about 2 minutes, likely because the battery was aging). It always feels like marketing and "cool" gimmicks come first with Dyson products and the actual quality is second.

bscphil 6y ago

> Dollar for dollar, a bagged vacuum, when compared to a bagless, will almost always: ... Cost less to repair and maintain (Often including consumables). He says elsewhere in the thread that "you're going to budget more than [$400] if you want a quality vacuum". He calls anything under $200 "pure shit". He recommends cleaning the brush roller monthly, and changing the belt in the vacuum yearly. He recommends a brand that sells a pack of bags and a filter for $100 that's "a 2 year supply". Sometimes I wonder if people in threads like this Reddit thread live in the same universe as me. So many times it's cult-think to justify spending absurd amounts of money. (E.g. "obviously that $200 fountain pen is going to write so much better than a $30 Lamy.") The trap is when you start thinking "people who really care about X buy Y brand", and then you start thinking that way about everything. For reference, I own an upright bagless Black and Decker that I bought from my local big box store for ~$70 over five years ago. I have never replaced any parts. I've cleaned out the brush maybe once in that time. It still sucks just as much as it does when I bought it (you can fill up half the damn canister on one vacuuming run). Even granting that I could get a bagged vacuum that would last the rest of my life for free, the $50+ a year for maintenance would cost me more. (Granted, a more expensive vacuum would probably clean better by some metric, but this vacuum does not leave any noticeable dust or debris or my very low pile carpet.)