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> Since Windows’ window management works much better than what OS X’s does I find this interesting because to me, it just seems that macOS does this way better

> Since Windows’ window management works much better than what OS X’s does I find this interesting because to me, it just seems that macOS does this way better, especially on MacBooks with the gestures (some of which work on windows). I really miss Mission Control whenever I have to use Windows.

reportgunner 6y ago
I don't know what Mission Control is, but seeing from the screenshots it seems to be something like what you get on windows after pressing Win+Tab ? Honestly I never understood the appeal of gestures as I use my OS not only on laptops but on desktops too where there is no touchpad.
- adrianN 6y ago
  Apple's bluetooth touchpad is pretty nice.
- trinix912 6y ago
  It's pretty similar but it's more clunky (literally just a full-screen Alt-Tab), often requires scrolling, clutters the space with useless "past activities" and so on. Mission Control does one thing and does it well. > Honestly I never understood the appeal of gestures as I use my OS not only on laptops but on desktops too where there is no touchpad. Apple's mice and trackpads (which are sold for desktops as well) support them.
Synaesthesia 6y ago
Yeah but Mac OS needs more windows to function. Windows Explorer is definitely superior to Finder, it has a lot more features.
- norman784 6y ago
  IHMO the Explorer from Windows XP (this is the last Windows I used before Windows 10) was better, did the job and was simple, now it seems bloated for me and too mouse dependent, I like to use the keyboard whenever possible, other big feature missing in windows and built in in mac is the file preview, you just hit space and you can see most common file formats without opening them, maybe Windows has this but I'm not aware of it. In general I think Mac has better UX out of the box, Windows surely has a lot of features but not very easy to use, other thing that I miss about Windows is that before with one right click and a left click I could change my network settings (LAN), now I need a few clicks to get to it (but I never remember which menu I need to click it). Some linux distros are now easier to configure than windows, mac is the king in this regard (but there are some advanced configurations that you need the terminal for, so this is a cons, but most of them are rarely used)
  - _Microft 6y ago
    You can get a preview in Explorer by toggling the preview pane using Alt+P.
_Microft 6y ago
Win-Tab shows an overview over opened windows, different desktops (yes, Windows has these) and has a timelime of recently used documents. The desktop can be shown using Win+D or by moving the mouse into the lower right corner (this can be enabled/disabled). Windows can be arranged and tiled by using Win+<arrow key> The mentioned Power Toys allow to customize shortcuts and provide an overview of Windows shortcuts when holding down the Win-key.
- fuzzy2 6y ago
  At least for me, Win-Tab takes ~2 seconds to “engage”. The animations are very much not smooth. The animation isn’t synchronized an multiple screens either. It’s a start, but it’s not there yet. However, window management on macOS isn’t great beyond mission control.
  - _Microft 6y ago
    It opens really fast on this PC but is neither synchronized between screens nor smoothly animated. The time to open this view seems to depend on the number of windows on the screen.
jccalhoun 6y ago
I've never owned a mac so I don't know what Mission Control is fully capable of but is Win10's "Task View" similar to Mission Control? WinKey+Tab
whalesalad 6y ago
Yeah, I much prefer the macOS approach. You can get everywhere with the keyboard, too. - cmd-tab to jump through apps (release tab and then press q to quit the selected app, nice convenience) - cmd-` (tilde) to loop through windows of the same app - this is a thing a lot of people don't realize you can do Keyboard control over dialogs has gotten a lot better, too. I use an app called sizeup to tile/position windows on screen and it is wonderful. It will remember different monitors too so that you can easily rearrange everything when docking/undocking a laptop.

reportgunner 6y ago

I don't know what Mission Control is, but seeing from the screenshots it seems to be something like what you get on windows after pressing Win+Tab ? Honestly I never understood the appeal of gestures as I use my OS not only on laptops but on desktops too where there is no touchpad.

adrianN 6y ago
Apple's bluetooth touchpad is pretty nice.
trinix912 6y ago
It's pretty similar but it's more clunky (literally just a full-screen Alt-Tab), often requires scrolling, clutters the space with useless "past activities" and so on. Mission Control does one thing and does it well. > Honestly I never understood the appeal of gestures as I use my OS not only on laptops but on desktops too where there is no touchpad. Apple's mice and trackpads (which are sold for desktops as well) support them.

Synaesthesia 6y ago

Yeah but Mac OS needs more windows to function. Windows Explorer is definitely superior to Finder, it has a lot more features.

norman784 6y ago
IHMO the Explorer from Windows XP (this is the last Windows I used before Windows 10) was better, did the job and was simple, now it seems bloated for me and too mouse dependent, I like to use the keyboard whenever possible, other big feature missing in windows and built in in mac is the file preview, you just hit space and you can see most common file formats without opening them, maybe Windows has this but I'm not aware of it. In general I think Mac has better UX out of the box, Windows surely has a lot of features but not very easy to use, other thing that I miss about Windows is that before with one right click and a left click I could change my network settings (LAN), now I need a few clicks to get to it (but I never remember which menu I need to click it). Some linux distros are now easier to configure than windows, mac is the king in this regard (but there are some advanced configurations that you need the terminal for, so this is a cons, but most of them are rarely used)
- _Microft 6y ago
  You can get a preview in Explorer by toggling the preview pane using Alt+P.

_Microft 6y ago

Win-Tab shows an overview over opened windows, different desktops (yes, Windows has these) and has a timelime of recently used documents. The desktop can be shown using Win+D or by moving the mouse into the lower right corner (this can be enabled/disabled). Windows can be arranged and tiled by using Win+<arrow key> The mentioned Power Toys allow to customize shortcuts and provide an overview of Windows shortcuts when holding down the Win-key.

fuzzy2 6y ago
At least for me, Win-Tab takes ~2 seconds to “engage”. The animations are very much not smooth. The animation isn’t synchronized an multiple screens either. It’s a start, but it’s not there yet. However, window management on macOS isn’t great beyond mission control.
- _Microft 6y ago
  It opens really fast on this PC but is neither synchronized between screens nor smoothly animated. The time to open this view seems to depend on the number of windows on the screen.

jccalhoun 6y ago

I've never owned a mac so I don't know what Mission Control is fully capable of but is Win10's "Task View" similar to Mission Control? WinKey+Tab

whalesalad 6y ago

Yeah, I much prefer the macOS approach. You can get everywhere with the keyboard, too. - cmd-tab to jump through apps (release tab and then press q to quit the selected app, nice convenience) - cmd-` (tilde) to loop through windows of the same app - this is a thing a lot of people don't realize you can do Keyboard control over dialogs has gotten a lot better, too. I use an app called sizeup to tile/position windows on screen and it is wonderful. It will remember different monitors too so that you can easily rearrange everything when docking/undocking a laptop.