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Don't for a minute think this means that this means platform-neutral apps. HTML+JS calling into Windows APIs, is more likely what this is, rendering rich widge

by teilo 15y ago

Don't for a minute think this means that this means platform-neutral apps. HTML+JS calling into Windows APIs, is more likely what this is, rendering rich widgets ala ASP.NET controls. I'm willing to bet money on it. And at that point, who cares? Different development toolset. Same lock-in.

blntechie 15y ago
I'm sure they're not going to use ASP.NET controls. If WebOS is universally accepted as developer friendly I don't see why Windows which is planning for a similar toolkit will not be considered so. And let me know when the day arrives when you can develop and run platform-neutral apps in Mac,iOS or in fact Linux. Don't be unreasonable. Thanks.
- bonch 15y ago
  Apple actually tried to introduce HTML5 as the development platform for the iPhone, and developers didn't want it.
  - tomlin 15y ago
    Not quite. Safari for iOS is crippled when compared to the desktop versions. You have to write a native app over a web app if you want to allow the user to upload images or video, for example.
  - mullr 15y ago
    The world was pretty significantly different at that time: in 2007, we hadn't even seen 280slides yet. It wasn't obvious to everybody that you could write really great javascript-based webapps. Nobody was even calling it html5 at the time.
- teilo 15y ago
  Nothing I wrote is unreasonable. The only real advantage of HTML5 on the desktop is that it has a shallow learning curve vs., say, iOS. I didn't say it wouldn't be developer friendly. I'm saying that it really makes no difference that they are using HTML+JS if, like WebOS, they have tight coupling to the native OS API. Also, I didn't say they would use ASP.NET controls, but something similar - rich controls backed specifically by the OS. My point stands: Different developer toolset - same vendor lock-in.
- Uhhrrr 15y ago
  Qt, GTK, Tcl/Tk - for Tcl/Tk that day is at least thirteen years ago. For Java that day is sixteen years ago.
  - eli_s 15y ago
    sure... if you want an equally shitty experience across all platforms
    - ori_b 15y ago
      And... web apps aren't?
nextparadigms 15y ago
I agree. They didn't tout "native HTML5 is coming to IE10" for nothing a few months ago.
- kenjackson 15y ago
  Intersting... native HTML5 does make a LOT more sense in this context.
mrspandex 15y ago
No jQuery for desktop JS?

by teilo 15y ago

blntechie 15y ago

I'm sure they're not going to use ASP.NET controls. If WebOS is universally accepted as developer friendly I don't see why Windows which is planning for a similar toolkit will not be considered so. And let me know when the day arrives when you can develop and run platform-neutral apps in Mac,iOS or in fact Linux. Don't be unreasonable. Thanks.

bonch 15y ago
Apple actually tried to introduce HTML5 as the development platform for the iPhone, and developers didn't want it.
- tomlin 15y ago
  Not quite. Safari for iOS is crippled when compared to the desktop versions. You have to write a native app over a web app if you want to allow the user to upload images or video, for example.
- mullr 15y ago
  The world was pretty significantly different at that time: in 2007, we hadn't even seen 280slides yet. It wasn't obvious to everybody that you could write really great javascript-based webapps. Nobody was even calling it html5 at the time.
teilo 15y ago
Nothing I wrote is unreasonable. The only real advantage of HTML5 on the desktop is that it has a shallow learning curve vs., say, iOS. I didn't say it wouldn't be developer friendly. I'm saying that it really makes no difference that they are using HTML+JS if, like WebOS, they have tight coupling to the native OS API. Also, I didn't say they would use ASP.NET controls, but something similar - rich controls backed specifically by the OS. My point stands: Different developer toolset - same vendor lock-in.
Uhhrrr 15y ago
Qt, GTK, Tcl/Tk - for Tcl/Tk that day is at least thirteen years ago. For Java that day is sixteen years ago.
- eli_s 15y ago
  sure... if you want an equally shitty experience across all platforms
  - ori_b 15y ago
    And... web apps aren't?

nextparadigms 15y ago

I agree. They didn't tout "native HTML5 is coming to IE10" for nothing a few months ago.

kenjackson 15y ago
Intersting... native HTML5 does make a LOT more sense in this context.

mrspandex 15y ago

No jQuery for desktop JS?