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I find your position disturbing. You prefer a police state over social accountability? Fuck. That.

imgabe 6y ago
I have no idea how you managed to misinterpret my comment that badly. The existence of police does not imply a police state. You prefer lynch mobs over due process? Fuck that.
- judge2020 6y ago
  Nobody is forcing him to give up his rights over this incident, he isn’t going to jail, so calling it a “lynch mob” is disingenuous at best and a view-pushing exaggeration at worst. Just because something is legal doesn’t mean people have to like you for doing it, so what you say is a ‘lynch mob’ is just everyone collectively agreeing to not like someone for a few days.
  - imgabe 6y ago
    No it is not just "people being mad at you for a couple days". Even people who are famous for good reasons and generally well liked get stalkers, occasionally violent ones. Pointing the attention of a hundred million plus people at someone and telling them "this person is bad and evil" all but guarantees there will be some nonzero number of mentally unbalanced people who will take it too seriously. You might as well shove them in front of a bus. Why should you or I or anyone not directly involved need to like or dislike this person who has zero impact on our lives beyond a moment of amusement? If he committed crimes, I hope he goes to jail. But I don't have all the facts about that and I'm not on the jury so that isn't and shouldn't be up to me. And no, reading one news article does not constitute all the facts.
    - judge2020 6y ago
      That's just a side effect of being in the news at all. Even before the internet was in everyone's pocket, celebrities had paparazzi and crazy stalkers. Bad people are going to do horrible things but that doesn't mean we should stop propagating all news thanks to them. You're basically advocating for a heckler's veto. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler%27s_veto https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler%27s_veto which specifically goes into violent reactions: > Most findings say that the acting party's actions cannot be pre-emptively stopped due to fear of heckling by the reacting party, but in the immediate face of violence, authorities can force the acting party to cease their action in order to satisfy the hecklers.

I have no idea how you managed to misinterpret my comment that badly. The existence of police does not imply a police state. You prefer lynch mobs over due process? Fuck that.

judge2020 6y ago
Nobody is forcing him to give up his rights over this incident, he isn’t going to jail, so calling it a “lynch mob” is disingenuous at best and a view-pushing exaggeration at worst. Just because something is legal doesn’t mean people have to like you for doing it, so what you say is a ‘lynch mob’ is just everyone collectively agreeing to not like someone for a few days.
- imgabe 6y ago
  No it is not just "people being mad at you for a couple days". Even people who are famous for good reasons and generally well liked get stalkers, occasionally violent ones. Pointing the attention of a hundred million plus people at someone and telling them "this person is bad and evil" all but guarantees there will be some nonzero number of mentally unbalanced people who will take it too seriously. You might as well shove them in front of a bus. Why should you or I or anyone not directly involved need to like or dislike this person who has zero impact on our lives beyond a moment of amusement? If he committed crimes, I hope he goes to jail. But I don't have all the facts about that and I'm not on the jury so that isn't and shouldn't be up to me. And no, reading one news article does not constitute all the facts.
  - judge2020 6y ago
    That's just a side effect of being in the news at all. Even before the internet was in everyone's pocket, celebrities had paparazzi and crazy stalkers. Bad people are going to do horrible things but that doesn't mean we should stop propagating all news thanks to them. You're basically advocating for a heckler's veto. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler%27s_veto https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler%27s_veto which specifically goes into violent reactions: > Most findings say that the acting party's actions cannot be pre-emptively stopped due to fear of heckling by the reacting party, but in the immediate face of violence, authorities can force the acting party to cease their action in order to satisfy the hecklers.