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> I’ll bet people like flexcuff guy and pipebomb guy weren’t discussing _their_ plans in such public forums. I dunno, some of those folks were pretty brazen.

> I’ll bet people like flexcuff guy and pipebomb guy weren’t discussing _their_ plans in such public forums. I dunno, some of those folks were pretty brazen. Remember they thought all this was, if not "legal" exactly, "sanctioned" by their sitting president. They weren't trying to hide. But even if we grant that the premise (which is clearly true) that serious criminals will always have the ability to hide from surveillance, the presence of an easily found public forum is still a prerequisite for real insurrection. Flexcuff guy and pipebomb guy may have been hardened experts, but they couldn't have sacked the capitol with only their militias behind them. The preventable part of this is the mob violence. And mob violence requires a mob, which requires that the members of the mob (by definition amateurs) be able to find forums to radicalize them.

godelski 6y ago
> And mob violence requires a mob And this is exactly what I mean by >>> As if you can create a secret communication channel that members of the public can join but the FBI is unable to infiltrate. A mob needs to radicalize people and recruit. If you are recruiting and not on the FBI's watch-list I'm going to blame the FBI, especially since you are actively radicalizing people. Any insurrection or major plot will require recruitment of people which it is difficult to vet. This (should) makes for a trivial ability to infiltrate. If it doesn't I'm really disappointed in the Three Letter Agencies as they clearly make themselves out to be more than woefully incompetent. We're spending all that money and people can't click a link? I'm pretty confident they can accomplish this.