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https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/11/20/246297720/white-supremacist-murderer-who-shot-larry-flynt-is-executed https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way

by f430 6y ago

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/11/20/246297720/white-supremacist-murderer-who-shot-larry-flynt-is-executed https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/11/20/246297720... TIL interracial porn got Larry shot.

anonu 6y ago
Wow, great find here. Got Larry shot and paralyzed for life...
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raverbashing 6y ago
So you mean the southern "bastions of Free Speech" are not happy with some free speech they disagree with?
- Const-me 6y ago
  > the southern "bastions of Free Speech" Historically, southern states were bastions of democratic party: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Party_System https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Party_System
  - raverbashing 6y ago
    Then why Trump supporters walk with the Confederate flag in hand?
  - amanaplanacanal 6y ago
    Yes. Most of the south flipped to the Republican party after the Democratic Party embraced the civil rights movement.
    - k__ 6y ago
      I find this rather interesting. People are always touting how Lincoln was a republican, but when I read a bit about history it seemed that the parties switched sides after the war in terms of left/right alignment.
      - netsharc 6y ago
        Yeah, I find the reductionist "He wears the same label as me, therefore I can claim him as part of my tribe, and that he has the same views as I/my tribe does" annoying. Lincoln wouldn't get far in today's GOP primaries...
      - rayiner 6y ago
        Maybe read more about history. Lincoln’s Republican Party was a coalition of religious fundamentalists (abolitionists) and big business. That’s still basically the modern Republican Party. Meanwhile, FDR’s Democratic Party was recognizably the modern Democratic Party. It was a coalition of labor, immigrants, northern progressives, Black people, and agricultural southern whites. George Wallace was a committed New Dealer. During FDR’s time, the whole south was relatively poorer than Mississippi was today. They had half the GDP per capita of the Midwest. These poor southerners were democrats because they wanted New Deal government programs (so long as Black people were denied access), and were opposed to big business, who supported things like tariffs that were bad for southern farmers but good for northern industry. The New Deal coalition persisted into the 1990s with Bill Clinton, even though Democrats had dropped their opposition to civil rights in 1965. There was a realignment that happened due to economic development in the south in the 1970s and 1980. Industrial development in the south created the prosperous suburbs similar to the ones that politicians like Reagan relied on to win traditionally Republican states like Arizona. The economies of places like Georgia became reliant on low taxes and low regulation to get business to move there. You can see this even in the Democratic Party. Southern Democrats like Mark Warner and Keisha Lance Bottom are the most pro-business in the party. Lance-Bottoms (the Democratic mayor of Atlanta) and Brian Kemp (the Republican governor of Georgia) have more in common on economic issues than either do with anti-business northern Democrats like Jenny Durkin. Nixon and Reagan’s appeal to the south is always denounced by democrats as being akin to adopting the pre-1965 Democratic support for segregation. Of course that’s ridiculous. In Congress and as Vice President Nixon had been a leading civil rights advocate, helping get through the 1957 civil rights act. (He was a racist, but he was strongly opposed to de jure discrimination.) By the time of Reagan and Nixon, the issue landscape had changed. People weren’t arguing about segregation, they were arguing about affirmative action and racial quotas. The natural conservative position on those is going to be different than on Jim Crow.

by f430 6y ago

anonu 6y ago

Wow, great find here. Got Larry shot and paralyzed for life...

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raverbashing 6y ago

So you mean the southern "bastions of Free Speech" are not happy with some free speech they disagree with?

Const-me 6y ago
> the southern "bastions of Free Speech" Historically, southern states were bastions of democratic party: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Party_System https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Party_System
- raverbashing 6y ago
  Then why Trump supporters walk with the Confederate flag in hand?
- amanaplanacanal 6y ago
  Yes. Most of the south flipped to the Republican party after the Democratic Party embraced the civil rights movement.
  - k__ 6y ago
    I find this rather interesting. People are always touting how Lincoln was a republican, but when I read a bit about history it seemed that the parties switched sides after the war in terms of left/right alignment.
    - netsharc 6y ago
      Yeah, I find the reductionist "He wears the same label as me, therefore I can claim him as part of my tribe, and that he has the same views as I/my tribe does" annoying. Lincoln wouldn't get far in today's GOP primaries...
    - rayiner 6y ago
      Maybe read more about history. Lincoln’s Republican Party was a coalition of religious fundamentalists (abolitionists) and big business. That’s still basically the modern Republican Party. Meanwhile, FDR’s Democratic Party was recognizably the modern Democratic Party. It was a coalition of labor, immigrants, northern progressives, Black people, and agricultural southern whites. George Wallace was a committed New Dealer. During FDR’s time, the whole south was relatively poorer than Mississippi was today. They had half the GDP per capita of the Midwest. These poor southerners were democrats because they wanted New Deal government programs (so long as Black people were denied access), and were opposed to big business, who supported things like tariffs that were bad for southern farmers but good for northern industry. The New Deal coalition persisted into the 1990s with Bill Clinton, even though Democrats had dropped their opposition to civil rights in 1965. There was a realignment that happened due to economic development in the south in the 1970s and 1980. Industrial development in the south created the prosperous suburbs similar to the ones that politicians like Reagan relied on to win traditionally Republican states like Arizona. The economies of places like Georgia became reliant on low taxes and low regulation to get business to move there. You can see this even in the Democratic Party. Southern Democrats like Mark Warner and Keisha Lance Bottom are the most pro-business in the party. Lance-Bottoms (the Democratic mayor of Atlanta) and Brian Kemp (the Republican governor of Georgia) have more in common on economic issues than either do with anti-business northern Democrats like Jenny Durkin. Nixon and Reagan’s appeal to the south is always denounced by democrats as being akin to adopting the pre-1965 Democratic support for segregation. Of course that’s ridiculous. In Congress and as Vice President Nixon had been a leading civil rights advocate, helping get through the 1957 civil rights act. (He was a racist, but he was strongly opposed to de jure discrimination.) By the time of Reagan and Nixon, the issue landscape had changed. People weren’t arguing about segregation, they were arguing about affirmative action and racial quotas. The natural conservative position on those is going to be different than on Jim Crow.