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There is also NEXTSPACE, which is focused on a distribution of files that implement a full NeXTSTEP environment for Linux. Installs on top of a minimal install

There is also NEXTSPACE, which is focused on a distribution of files that implement a full NeXTSTEP environment for Linux. Installs on top of a minimal install of Centos 7,8, Fedora 31. I installed it in a VM and it worked pretty well, but does need more apps installed by default. See https://github.com/trunkmaster/nextspace https://github.com/trunkmaster/nextspace .

spijdar 6y ago
It's worth being clear and noting that, somewhat unlike Hello, which is largely an attempt at looking like MacOS, with some attention given to the UI and things like keyboard shortcuts to make it sort of feel like MacOS, NEXTSPACE comes much closer to mimicking the functionality of NeXTSTEP and, by extension, MacOS (X). I do wish GNUstep and some of the other projects around it had more life and applications written for them. It could be a lovely OS with some work. And I do mean OS -- if one built a distro fully around GNUstep, it'd provide all the interfaces, both programmatic and GUI-wise. And it could be lovely. Not sure there's enough motivation left to get that ball rolling, though...
29athrowaway 6y ago
When Steve Jobs created the first mac, he tried to replicate the look and feel of the Xerox Alto. He did not pay much attention to other aspects such as Smalltalk-80 and object oriented programming. NeXT is an attempt to incorporate those concepts that were initially left out from the mac, thus creating an experience that is more faithful to the original Xerox Alto. That's the origin of Objective-C. It may be possible to create something like macOS based off GNUstep. There is a project going on that direction... Etoile. http://etoileos.com/etoile/ http://etoileos.com/etoile/
- masswerk 6y ago
  There's actually quite a difference between Classic Mac and Alto/Smalltalk. (Both sides would argue that the other one totally missed it. There's even some evidence hinting at the Lisa having experimental windows even before the PARC visit, and these screenshots look actually more like the final product than what came after the visit. [1]) Just install an Alto emulator and try it yourself. Also, the Mac System was famously programmed in Object Pascal (like the Lisa). [1] https://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=Busy_Being_Born.txt https://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&stor...
- yagya 6y ago
  I really like the idea of Étoilé, but a lot of the docs are outdated because of the death of Gna!, and right now the focus is more on the CoreObject framework rather than the UI.
itomato 6y ago
It's not much more than a GNUstep distribution

spijdar 6y ago

It's worth being clear and noting that, somewhat unlike Hello, which is largely an attempt at looking like MacOS, with some attention given to the UI and things like keyboard shortcuts to make it sort of feel like MacOS, NEXTSPACE comes much closer to mimicking the functionality of NeXTSTEP and, by extension, MacOS (X). I do wish GNUstep and some of the other projects around it had more life and applications written for them. It could be a lovely OS with some work. And I do mean OS -- if one built a distro fully around GNUstep, it'd provide all the interfaces, both programmatic and GUI-wise. And it could be lovely. Not sure there's enough motivation left to get that ball rolling, though...

29athrowaway 6y ago

When Steve Jobs created the first mac, he tried to replicate the look and feel of the Xerox Alto. He did not pay much attention to other aspects such as Smalltalk-80 and object oriented programming. NeXT is an attempt to incorporate those concepts that were initially left out from the mac, thus creating an experience that is more faithful to the original Xerox Alto. That's the origin of Objective-C. It may be possible to create something like macOS based off GNUstep. There is a project going on that direction... Etoile. http://etoileos.com/etoile/ http://etoileos.com/etoile/

masswerk 6y ago
There's actually quite a difference between Classic Mac and Alto/Smalltalk. (Both sides would argue that the other one totally missed it. There's even some evidence hinting at the Lisa having experimental windows even before the PARC visit, and these screenshots look actually more like the final product than what came after the visit. [1]) Just install an Alto emulator and try it yourself. Also, the Mac System was famously programmed in Object Pascal (like the Lisa). [1] https://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=Busy_Being_Born.txt https://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&stor...
yagya 6y ago
I really like the idea of Étoilé, but a lot of the docs are outdated because of the death of Gna!, and right now the focus is more on the CoreObject framework rather than the UI.

itomato 6y ago

It's not much more than a GNUstep distribution