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This is exciting - I hope it gets momentum. I used to use BSD on my laptop and although it was a bit less convenient than Linux in terms of hardware support, et
by macksd 6y ago
This is exciting - I hope it gets momentum. I used to use BSD on my laptop and although it was a bit less convenient than Linux in terms of hardware support, etc. I really loved the philosophy. Some of the desktop-oriented distributions died out and have been replaced by others, so it's not an ecosystem I feel comfortable really investing my time in.
But my wife loves the look and feel of Mac OS, and has just grown frustrated with a few things lately that are obviously just restricting users to squeeze them to more expensive products or locking them in to Apple's ecosystem. She's rarely cared much about my FOSS hobby before but something like this would actually appeal to her, I think.
- reachtarunhere 6y agoIf you are open to Linux you might find this interesting https://elementary.io/ https://elementary.io/
- KeyBoardG 6y agoThis. I wonder how much work it would take to get the Pantheon desktop running on FreeBSD if they wanted that as the base.
- neilalexander 6y agoIf there was a way to have the Pantheon desktop experience of elementaryOS on BSD or Illumos without having to build it myself, I’d be there in a heartbeat.
- grahamjperrin 6y agoExcluding a global menu, yes?
- whynotminot 6y agoJust curious, what do you feel is squeezing you to a more expensive product lately? I still use a 2012 Mac mini from time to time. It recently stopped getting the latest OS upgrades, but getting 8ish years out of a product before being gently pushed to upgrade doesn't strike me as all that unreasonable or money-grabbing.
- spockz 6y agoAlso imho the latest M1 air is excellent value for money. Cheap, great screen. And macOS.
- mekkkkkk 6y agoCheap is definitely arguable.
- whynotminot 6y agoI might agree that "cheap" is the wrong word, but "value" is definitely the right one. There's nothing at its price point that provides a similar value prop.
- spockz 6y agoOkay it isn’t cheap to buy, however TCO for a machine th at will probably you serve well for 8 years for around €1000 sounds good to me. It is also their cheapest laptop which is why I used the word cheap.
- yagya 6y agoPlus, both Corellium and Asahi Linux are porting Linux to the M1 MacBooks. I have Ubuntu installed in a separate partition and boot into it occasionally. The main issues right now are audio and graphics support.
- ksec 6y ago>But my wife loves the look and feel of Mac OS, and has just grown frustrated with a few things lately that are obviously just restricting users to squeeze them to more expensive products or locking them in to Apple's ecosystem. So glad this is catching on. Although I was surprised this coming from Mac and not iPhone. What is it with Mac that caused the frustration? On iPhone, it is clear everything is about pushing for services revenue.
- Koshkin 6y agoWife loves her iPhone and hates the Mac. Sounds familiar...
- macksd 6y agoI haven't looked into it too deeply, but she has one of the less expensive netbook-type models and it appears to raise errors quite frequently because she should buy more iCloud space even though she has space on the local disk. She's also found it increasingly hard to find config settings the last few years.
- yagya 6y agoI'd recommend to disable iCloud for the offending apps in System Preferences -> Apple ID -> iCloud. I like macOS, but I don't like iCloud at all.
- gosukiwi 6y agoWhat I love about FreeBSD is the documentation. I was able to skim through it and get a good understanding of how everything fits together, and how I can change it. I'd love it if this project gains some momentum, it would be great to have an alternative to Ubuntu/Elementary OS. In particular it would be nice to have an alternative for macOS users. Jumping to Linux from other OSes can be tough at first. > restricting users to squeeze them to more expensive products or locking them in to Apple's ecosystem. Yeah also this. I can't use my old MacBook 2005 anymore because the software I need to use won't run on older versions of MacOS, and I just can't install newer versions of MacOS without some kind of hack, which leaves the computer half-usable :(
- macksd 6y agoYes! FreeBSD has great documentation. One of the great things about the kernel+userspace unity. When I worked on HBase they literally used the FreeBSD style sheet for their docs, and it was similarly good documentation.
- grahamjperrin 6y ago> documentation https://redd.it/lh3c5y https://redd.it/lh3c5y refers to the new documentation at https://docs.freebsd.org/ https://docs.freebsd.org/ 2 points (100% upvoted) after two days; readers are underwhelmed :-)
- taejavu 6y agoDid you look at the screenshot? This is an attempt to make something look like MacOS, and they've failed miserably, at least so far. I'll bet anything your wife hates it, and I'd be surprised if she even gives it a chance.
- grahamjperrin 6y ago> Did you look at the screenshot? This is an attempt to make something look like MacOS, … It's more than that; the documentation might help you.