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As someone from India, it is unbelievable that someone from California - an affluent state in a first-world country - has to actually pay for a 3.5Mbps connecti
by shadeslayer_ 6y ago
As someone from India, it is unbelievable that someone from California - an affluent state in a first-world country - has to actually pay for a 3.5Mbps connection in 2021. For context, I was paying around $11/mo for a 40Mbps connection in 2016.
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- bruceb 6y agoA bit of apples to mangos comparison. California is a big state. There is gig internet available depends where you live. India the internet speed would vary based where you live. Also US internet in general will be more reliable, won't go out when it rains hard. With all that said yeah US is behind for wide spread fast internet.
- s1artibartfast 6y agoYes, and north Hollywood isn’t exactly a rural backwater
- ClumsyPilot 6y ago"Also US internet in general will be more reliable, won't go out when it rains hard." Why do you believe that US internet is any more reliable than any other, especially since many countries have fiber to home?
- bruceb 6y agoThis was a specific reference to the comment above about the cost in India. Yes in general would say more reliable than India.
- shadeslayer_ 6y agoOff the top of my head, my connection has only had ~8 hours of downtime over the last six months. That is around 99% uptime.
- traskjd 6y agoWe've had gigabit internet in most metro areas of New Zealand for many years now (I pay $110 NZD = ~$80 USD a month to have no data cap either). In mid-March 2019 the infrastructure provider (Chorus) began testing 10Gbps connections with small businesses. I moved to Seattle in 2016 and found there was only 1 provider who could do 1Gpbs, and even then only to some select locations in the city. Somehow moving into the Amazon/Microsoft center of the tech universe was like going back in time. Now if we could just resolve the speed of light issue between the bottom of the south pacific and US-EAST1.
- hrrsn 6y ago4 gbit connections are now available in most metro areas :)
- swarnie_ 6y agoI'm all for progress but... Why? What possible use could an end user have for a 4gbit connect? The router alone is going to set you back a few hundred bucks.
- baybal2 6y ago> What possible use could an end user have for a 4gbit connect? Who knows. I was excited to do icecc over a gigabit WAN on those "cloud" servers.
- katbyte 6y ago4k, 8k and future proofing? How many 4K 5.1 high quality streams can 1g handle?
- freebuju 6y agoRoughly 9~ concurrent streams (if we're talking uncompressed blurays) assuming the network infrastructure is dedicated. OTOH If talking Netflix 4k, the number of streams capable here is just about infinite :)
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- op03 6y agoIt will happen after India gets its own Telco Monopolies. Just give it another year or two.
- free 6y agoUnlikely, jio has been operating for more then a couple of years and there’s no sign of this happening. In fact, it’s had the opposite effect of catapulting the digital ecosystem to another level.
- sangupta 6y agoLeave broadband, the mobile data rates and caps are exorbitant in US-CA. Back in 2016 I was paying $5.5 for 10GB 4G data in Delhi, and in US its like $10 per GB.
- mleonhard 6y ago4G service in USA is about $4/GB now.
- djmips 6y agoWell India is at 9 cents/GB now.
- chopin 6y agoHow much are technicians are paid in India compared to the US? This should be factored in.
- mafuy 6y agoCertainly less, but not by a factor of 40...
- dwild 6y agoThe median telecom technician in India[1] make $3,406 USD a year, while a US[2] one makes $55,878 USD a year. It's certainly not a factor of 40, but at 16x it's still quite significant. I'm pretty sure the population density which is 10x higher can factor for the 2.5x remaining. [1] https://www.payscale.com/research/IN/Job=Telecommunications_Technician/Salary https://www.payscale.com/research/IN/Job=Telecommunications_... [2] https://www.salary.com/research/salary/benchmark/telecommunications-technician-i-salary https://www.salary.com/research/salary/benchmark/telecommuni...
- mafuy 6y agoInteresting. My latest info was an income difference that is far smaller (around factor 2 to 4 in tech jobs). Thanks for the update.
- balhbloo 6y agoIntelligence collection / surveillance net tax?
- bhaskara2 6y agoI live in one of the most backward state tier-3 city in India and I have 200mbps unlimited for USD 18$/month
- baybal2 6y agoMy parents were paying $200 for 8mbps in 1998.
- gremlinsinc 6y agoI'm in rural utah and pay $60 for 1GB. I live in no-mans land and we have decent coverage most states don't though, betting the new administration pushes for more widespread coverage. Plus, Starlink might be a game changer for that as well.
- soapdog 6y agoI live in central London, about 5 minutes away from Google HQ. Here on I can only get 10Mbps ADSL2+ connections. I ended using a mobile broadband modem for the whole house, at least it gets me up to 20Mbps. Now, before living here, I was living in Rio de Janeiro state in Brazil. I had 300Mbps fiber connection cheaper than the price I'm paying for shit connection in London.
- Mauricebranagh 6y agoYou haven't got FTC then ?
- room271 6y agoWorth checking Virgin if you haven't already or yeah going for 5g (3 and some others offer this in parts of London). I had thought most of London had access to really good options here but obviously I was wrong!
- ClumsyPilot 6y agoI fell into that trap once - rented in a listed building with ADSL that will never be upgraded. Now Hyperoptic (a Gigabit provider) is my second question for any letting agent or landlord, without it head straight for the door.
- neverminder 6y agoHyperoptic is lightyears ahead of anyone else, because they offer 1 Gbps synchronous broadband. Synchronous is the key here, because absolute majority of other providers usually only offer upload speed that is 10-20% of download speed.
- sizzle 6y agoI have AT&T 1Gbps fiber both up and down on my street here in the US. I agree it is blazing fast.
- zeckalpha 6y agoI have a condo in a building with gigabit fiber access but they won’t provide to my unit for no reason (it’s a 4 unit brownstone), so pay $65/m for 10 Mbps. Oh, and when I saturate the uplink (~800kbps) they cut off the entire conn for ~30 seconds.
- apercu 6y agoIt's worse in Canada than it is in large parts of the US. Typical deregulation/capitalism will save us B.S.
- mlindner 6y agoIt's not deregulation it's regulatory capture. The regulations are put in place to keep new entrants out. Just look how fiercely even small rural ISPs are attacking Starlink. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/02/isps-step-up-fight-against-spacex-tell-fcc-that-starlink-will-be-too-slow/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/02/isps-step-up-fig...
- nickik 6y agoGood internet, is not about how rich the country is, but how the regulatory system is set up.