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“In the words of the ancients, one should make his decisions within the space of seven breaths. Lord Takandobu said, “If discrimination is long, it will spoil.”
by 2112 6y ago
“In the words of the ancients, one should make his decisions within the space of seven breaths. Lord Takandobu said, “If discrimination is long, it will spoil.” Lord Naoshige said, “When matters are done leisurely, seven out of ten will turn out badly. A warrior is a person who does things quickly.
When your mind is going hither and thither, discrimination will never be brought to a conclusion. With an intense, fresh and undelaying spirit, one will make his judgments within the space of seven breaths. It is a matter of being determined and having the spirit to break right through to the other side.”
Initially from ; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagakure https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagakure
But taken from a site [0] I just found in the process that apparently has nothing to do with the OS and informs us that ;
"Ubuntu is a concept that we have in our Bantu languages at home. Ubuntu is the essence of being a person. It means that we are people through other people. We cannot be fully human alone. We are made for interdependence, we are made for family. When you have ubuntu, you embrace others. You are generous, compassionate. If the world had more ubuntu, we would not have war. We would not have this huge gap between the rich and the poor. You are rich so that you can make up what is lacking for others. You are powerful so that you can help the weak, just as a mother or father helps their children. This is God's dream.”
- Ubuntu, as explained by Bishop Desmond Tutu
[0] https://ubuntutheory.blogspot.com/2008/08/7-breaths.html https://ubuntutheory.blogspot.com/2008/08/7-breaths.html
- codetrotter 6y agoUbuntu the operating system takes its name from the concept that you talk about here. That is also why the logo of Ubuntu the operating system is three people holding hands, which kind of blew my mind when I first heard about it. Prior to that I thought the logo was just some lines and circles in a pretty pattern with no specific meaning.
- quickthrower2 6y agoUbuntu is the distribution. GNU is the operating system. Linux is the kernel.
- codetrotter 6y agoA GNU/Linux distro can be referred to as an operating system. Not sure if you are memeing or not, but in conversation going into specifics about the GNU/Linux, or GNU plus Linux as you might like to call it, distinction, is not relevant here. And in fact, I would say that saying that “GNU is the operating system” is even incorrect. GNU plus Linux is the operating system. Neither part by itself is a complete operating system. So, the distro is the operating system. Ubuntu is the operating system.
- wongarsu 6y ago"GNU is the operating system" only makes sense when speaking about GNU Hurd or Linux-libre. The kernel is part of the OS, so in the case of ubuntu GNU can't be the operating system. But if Linux is the kernel, and GNU is part of the operating system because the OS is more than the kernel, then why is the OS GNU/Linux and not Systemd/GNU/Linux? And on Ubuntu you install most stuff with apt instead of using gcc, and use most software with X.org instead of bash, so the OS is really apt/X.org/systemd/GNU/Linux. Of course that name quickly becomes silly, it's much more practical to just call the OS Ubuntu (as that expresses a specific package selection that includes GNU, linux, and a large number of equally indispensable parts, as well as their update cadence and methodology)
- eeZah7Ux 6y agoLet's not forget that more than 90% of packages in Ubuntu are taken from Debian without any significant modification.
- wenc 6y agoI believe some of Ubuntu's early marketing materials (from the days of Warty Warthog) actually depicted 3 people holding hands. See link: https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/geekfeminism/images/9/94/Screenshot-gdm.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20130104082957 https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/geekfeminism/images/9/94/S...
- hertzrat 6y agoWhat about when there is a huge length of time between the plan and the final execution? Do you just not let yourself think about it after the 7th breath? In the context of the hagakure, I suppose it would apply to battle strategy?
- prionassembly 6y agoThe "Hagakure" literally starts with something like "The art of the samurai lies in a way of dying. A samurai warrior enters battle as if already dead."
- randmeerkat 6y agoThe samurai died out though, where as Japan’s unchanging ancient businesses managed to remain. I wonder if quick thinking isn’t just what leads one to an early end, business, life, or otherwise. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25281164 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25281164
- ceilingcorner 6y agoYet here we are, idolizing them centuries later, while an old shop is a curiosity at best. Living long != living well.
- cthor 6y agoModern fascination with samurai is less idolizing and more fetishizing. Plenty of people telling stories. Not a lot practicing the art. And those that do are (rightfully) snickered at for taking seriously something that is supposed to be mere quaint fascination.
- ceilingcorner 6y agoI’d suggest that others simply have a different perspective and that your label of “quaint” is merely your own modern bias. Edit: In other words, many people are dissatisfied with the contemporary world set up by merchants and bureaucrats. I don’t see it as misguided or quaint for them to look to the samurai ethic as a more appealing alternative. Its historical accuracy isn’t really relevant, as all history is story creation.