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When the Beetles were forming, they lived off the dole in the UK. The dole is credited with creating the music culture of the UK back in the 60s. I imagine tha
by tehjoker 6y ago
When the Beetles were forming, they lived off the dole in the UK. The dole is credited with creating the music culture of the UK back in the 60s.
I imagine that the way the system would work would be some kind of minimum disbursement for everyone, a higher level arts disbursment for people that are recognized to be working or emeritus musicians by their peers, and public contracts worth more money for particular projects.
The ceiling of financial success might be lower, but many fewer musicians would be living on ramen for decades or speculating on GameStop out of frustration. The idea is create a system that is explicitly not winner-takes-all.
- bluefirebrand 6y agoThe dole is just welfare bud. The idea that fewer artists would be living the ramen lifestyle on welfare is goofy.
- tehjoker 6y agoI'm not saying we should exactly replicate this system, I'm saying that a more basic version of it produced a cultural boom.
- heavyset_go 6y agoYes, but instead of making sure people's needs are met, have you considered giving the money to billionaires in the form of subsidies instead?
- OJFord 6y ago> they lived off the dole in the UK. The dole is credited with creating FWIW, slightly odd to read 'dole' here, it's just a slang term for unemployment benefits/'jobseekers allowance'/PC term du jour. It's not some pedestal-worthy since-scrapped UBI or whatever. It's partly just fashion I suppose - for whatever reason (self-reinforced, I suppose) there was more 'pride' in it, that I can't really imagine in modern lyrics, but we do have 'drill' etc. proudly rapping about illegal activities and turf wars, which is similar I suppose, in the sense that an outsider thinks 'why is that something to sing about, keep it to yourself, surely'.
- account42 6y ago> I imagine that the way the system would work would be some kind of minimum disbursement for everyone, a higher level arts disbursment for people that are recognized to be working or emeritus musicians by their peers, and public contracts worth more money for particular projects. I think it would be better to just have universal basic income for everyone (definitely not something restricted to music or even "art") and then have people find their own way if they want more on top of that. Highly regarded musicians can earn money without copyright just like anyone else: concerts, contract work, etc - just like everyone else.