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A growing issue with cars too. Manufacturer liability is probably voided if you do your own software or hardware repairs.

Daho0n 6y ago
It is illegal in the EU to change or remove warranty because of which shop services your car. I do my own service from time to time and warranty is still there. If there's a five year warranty it is 5 years no matter if it is serviced by Audi or Aldo's Auto. Access to diagnostic ports and tools/software is also covered. The only thing an authorized dealer can possibly give you is in case of failure after warranty has run out where they might extend it if you were a customer. Anything else is illegal and strictly enforced. Been there, won the case.
- aksss 6y ago
  You mention Audi vs Aldo’s, but does the same apply if you do the work yourself (i.e. non-professional operation)?
- jsmith45 6y ago
  Sure. In the US a warranty on any consumer product does not allow voiding or canceling a warranty due to third party parts or service, unless that same service was available at no ocst from the manufacturer. This applies to not just normal periodic maintance/replaceable parts, but repairs after accidents, cosmetic upgrades, whatever. So no, Apple cannot refuse to provide warranty replacement on your defective battery if you previously had the screen replaced with a third party after dropping it, since Apple does not provide free screens for negligance. Of course, if Apple can show that this replacement screen or its installation process is likely the cause of the battery not working, they can refuse to cover fixing the battery under warranty. The problem here is that John Deere will claim that your bypassing their softwareware protections means you were running the tractor outside its design parameters, and that is why your transmission broke, not because it was defective or originally installed incorrectly by them. To force them to reimburse you for failing to cover this under warranty you would need to convince the jury that it is more likely that the damage was from a defect or John Deere's incorrect installation than it was from side effect of you bypassing john Deere's software. Yeah, it could be rather tricky to convince them of that. Especially since you would already have had to pay for repairs, which likely means you don't have enough to pay for the lawsuit. (John Deere would need to reimburse your legal costs if you win the suit, but most of your time, aggravation and hassle is not reimbursable, and you need to be able to front the needed money in the first place).

Daho0n 6y ago

It is illegal in the EU to change or remove warranty because of which shop services your car. I do my own service from time to time and warranty is still there. If there's a five year warranty it is 5 years no matter if it is serviced by Audi or Aldo's Auto. Access to diagnostic ports and tools/software is also covered. The only thing an authorized dealer can possibly give you is in case of failure after warranty has run out where they might extend it if you were a customer. Anything else is illegal and strictly enforced. Been there, won the case.

aksss 6y ago
You mention Audi vs Aldo’s, but does the same apply if you do the work yourself (i.e. non-professional operation)?
jsmith45 6y ago
Sure. In the US a warranty on any consumer product does not allow voiding or canceling a warranty due to third party parts or service, unless that same service was available at no ocst from the manufacturer. This applies to not just normal periodic maintance/replaceable parts, but repairs after accidents, cosmetic upgrades, whatever. So no, Apple cannot refuse to provide warranty replacement on your defective battery if you previously had the screen replaced with a third party after dropping it, since Apple does not provide free screens for negligance. Of course, if Apple can show that this replacement screen or its installation process is likely the cause of the battery not working, they can refuse to cover fixing the battery under warranty. The problem here is that John Deere will claim that your bypassing their softwareware protections means you were running the tractor outside its design parameters, and that is why your transmission broke, not because it was defective or originally installed incorrectly by them. To force them to reimburse you for failing to cover this under warranty you would need to convince the jury that it is more likely that the damage was from a defect or John Deere's incorrect installation than it was from side effect of you bypassing john Deere's software. Yeah, it could be rather tricky to convince them of that. Especially since you would already have had to pay for repairs, which likely means you don't have enough to pay for the lawsuit. (John Deere would need to reimburse your legal costs if you win the suit, but most of your time, aggravation and hassle is not reimbursable, and you need to be able to front the needed money in the first place).