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While Instagram doesn't appear to have taken down the video yet, this seems like an interesting situation that is open for exploitation by bad actors.

FroshKiller 6y ago
Such as cops.
- wtfiswiththis 6y ago
  Funny seeing the subject doing the act immediately being separated from the act. If responding to that user without saying "such as cops," it allows the culprit to shifted elsewhere. This happens a lot and should be rightfully be seen as a form of thread derailment.
accountofme 6y ago
It might, but on the flipside, those bad actors are also opening themselves up to copyright infringement claims from the RIAA. I mean you knowingly played a song on a stream with many people watching without a license.
- Meph504 6y ago
  If you aren't streaming you have no responsibility to safe guard the copyright for someone who does, it isn't a copyright violation until someone publishes it, and that copyright violation is on the publisher. He knowingly played music, the person live streaming knowing streamed it to those viewers. What's interesting is that Instagram seems to be taking a really liberal approach to DMCA, and I'm guessing if they get an official take down notice, those video will come down, or at least be muted. What would be really interesting is to see someone build an application that will mute, just the parts of the audio that are copyrighted, and try to isolate, the speakers audio.
  - jobigoud 6y ago
    It's not just streaming. You can't play copyrighted music in public places without paying the royalties, whether someone is recording it or not. At least in France it's like this. Anyone that want to play music in public has to pay the SACEM which is like the RIAA.
    - Meph504 6y ago
      In the US you can, as long as it isn't a "public performance" (there is a lot written on how to define this from a legal perspective) or any other commercial sense, I.E. Playing it in your business. The exception is playing the radio.

FroshKiller 6y ago

Such as cops.

wtfiswiththis 6y ago
Funny seeing the subject doing the act immediately being separated from the act. If responding to that user without saying "such as cops," it allows the culprit to shifted elsewhere. This happens a lot and should be rightfully be seen as a form of thread derailment.

accountofme 6y ago

It might, but on the flipside, those bad actors are also opening themselves up to copyright infringement claims from the RIAA. I mean you knowingly played a song on a stream with many people watching without a license.

Meph504 6y ago
If you aren't streaming you have no responsibility to safe guard the copyright for someone who does, it isn't a copyright violation until someone publishes it, and that copyright violation is on the publisher. He knowingly played music, the person live streaming knowing streamed it to those viewers. What's interesting is that Instagram seems to be taking a really liberal approach to DMCA, and I'm guessing if they get an official take down notice, those video will come down, or at least be muted. What would be really interesting is to see someone build an application that will mute, just the parts of the audio that are copyrighted, and try to isolate, the speakers audio.
- jobigoud 6y ago
  It's not just streaming. You can't play copyrighted music in public places without paying the royalties, whether someone is recording it or not. At least in France it's like this. Anyone that want to play music in public has to pay the SACEM which is like the RIAA.
  - Meph504 6y ago
    In the US you can, as long as it isn't a "public performance" (there is a lot written on how to define this from a legal perspective) or any other commercial sense, I.E. Playing it in your business. The exception is playing the radio.