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> Absolutely no one subscribes to the position it critiques. Have you been on Twitter or a college campus lately? There absolutely are people who believe those

> Absolutely no one subscribes to the position it critiques. Have you been on Twitter or a college campus lately? There absolutely are people who believe those things to their core. I have spoken to many people who subscribe to those positions both online and off. I am not saying we should throw the baby out with the bathwater but disregarding the extremists in the anti-racism movement is just burying your head in the sand.

lisper 6y ago
> Have you been on Twitter or a college campus lately? No. I live in a bubble. And no, I am not being facetious. I really have not been to a college campus for a long time, and I really don't read Twitter. Nonetheless... > There absolutely are people who believe those things to their core. I have a very hard time believing this. Can you point me to some evidence on the record that is longer than 140 characters?
- macinjosh 6y ago
  Enjoy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH2WeWgcSMk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH2WeWgcSMk
  - runako 6y ago
    Fair warning: the creator of that video has a dog in this fight. To be fair, he's not exactly trying to come across as impartial. But this might not be the best source for someone trying to learn about this issue.
    - lisper 6y ago
      Well, I started watching this, but I stopped after "Evergreen was the most experimental of experimental colleges." I don't see how an anecdote from a setting like that could possibly inform a discussion of what is and isn't a widely held view in today's society.
- hn8788 6y ago
  So you admit that you're completely ignorant on the subject, yet claim with certainty that the article can't be true? People like you are part of the problem. These topics can't even be discussed without people jumping to discredit things they know nothing about.
  - lisper 6y ago
    No, I admit I am partially ignorant. Twitter is not the entirety of reality, notwithstanding that some people seem to think that it is. If third-wave anti-racism were really widespread I would expect to see evidence of it somewhere other than Twitter, and I don't. In particular, I would expect someone to point me to a reference where the point of view that McWhorter describes is actually endorsed by someone other than McWhorter.
caturopath 6y ago
I haven't been to a college campus lately, but my professor and student friends tell me that there are very few extremists. I don't think that what the Intellectual Dark Web folks imply is mainstream really is.

lisper 6y ago

> Have you been on Twitter or a college campus lately? No. I live in a bubble. And no, I am not being facetious. I really have not been to a college campus for a long time, and I really don't read Twitter. Nonetheless... > There absolutely are people who believe those things to their core. I have a very hard time believing this. Can you point me to some evidence on the record that is longer than 140 characters?

macinjosh 6y ago
Enjoy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH2WeWgcSMk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH2WeWgcSMk
- runako 6y ago
  Fair warning: the creator of that video has a dog in this fight. To be fair, he's not exactly trying to come across as impartial. But this might not be the best source for someone trying to learn about this issue.
  - lisper 6y ago
    Well, I started watching this, but I stopped after "Evergreen was the most experimental of experimental colleges." I don't see how an anecdote from a setting like that could possibly inform a discussion of what is and isn't a widely held view in today's society.
hn8788 6y ago
So you admit that you're completely ignorant on the subject, yet claim with certainty that the article can't be true? People like you are part of the problem. These topics can't even be discussed without people jumping to discredit things they know nothing about.
- lisper 6y ago
  No, I admit I am partially ignorant. Twitter is not the entirety of reality, notwithstanding that some people seem to think that it is. If third-wave anti-racism were really widespread I would expect to see evidence of it somewhere other than Twitter, and I don't. In particular, I would expect someone to point me to a reference where the point of view that McWhorter describes is actually endorsed by someone other than McWhorter.

caturopath 6y ago

I haven't been to a college campus lately, but my professor and student friends tell me that there are very few extremists. I don't think that what the Intellectual Dark Web folks imply is mainstream really is.