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Wait. Is that it? The article felt like it was off to a good start and I wanted to read more and learn more about the other bits of Senna away from the document

Wait. Is that it? The article felt like it was off to a good start and I wanted to read more and learn more about the other bits of Senna away from the documentary (which was really good but does mythologize him) and then it sort of just ended abruptly. Is this the start of a series or part of a longer essay?

whalesalad 6y ago
It's Road & Track, don't get your hopes up too high.
gota 6y ago
I got the same. I disagree with a few core points - I think the doc goes at good lenghts to show that Senna's piloting was not always "healthy" for others or himself! So I was curious to read in-depth arguments. And I found none. If the argument is that Senna's idolized figure is unwarranted - why? Otherwise, whats the point of describing it in such terms? To my recollection Prost's opinion that Senna was too temerary and downright arrogant in "wanting to humiliate" him is _completely justified_ in the doc's narrative. So where is this mary-sueness that the article implies? If Senna's relationship with Prost was mischaracterized - How? Prost is quoted agreeing but no info is given. This is especially important because we know for a fact that Balestre ruled in Prost's favor in the case that is highlighted in the doc. I can't even begin to judge some of the other claims or opinions on this piece because they are completely without substance. Too bad - seems like there is a good discussion in there. Perhaps I'll find it in the Hacker News comment section unrelated to the article itself.
- schoen 6y ago
  > too temerary By the way, the best English equivalent of temerário/temerario is "temerarious". [Edit: per your reply, I should also point out that "temerarious" is an extremely uncommon English word too; it's just that "temerary" may not even exist at all.]
  - gota 6y ago
    Thanks - I'm not particularly stressed about sounding 100% idiomatic as long as I get the point across (and am not flat out wrong). In this case I think I got the term from an Italian friend, so it might relate to some other word in italian. Also neither of temerário/temerario are common at all in Portuguese or Spanish, so I the idiomatic term the other way around, in the expression I used, should be 'imprudente' I think
    - schoen 6y ago
      I think the most idiomatic English terms to criticize someone who is incautious or too eager to take big risks spontaneously would probably be "reckless" or "rash". :-) (In English, "imprudent" refers more often to actions or decisions rather than to people.)

whalesalad 6y ago

It's Road & Track, don't get your hopes up too high.

gota 6y ago

I got the same. I disagree with a few core points - I think the doc goes at good lenghts to show that Senna's piloting was not always "healthy" for others or himself! So I was curious to read in-depth arguments. And I found none. If the argument is that Senna's idolized figure is unwarranted - why? Otherwise, whats the point of describing it in such terms? To my recollection Prost's opinion that Senna was too temerary and downright arrogant in "wanting to humiliate" him is _completely justified_ in the doc's narrative. So where is this mary-sueness that the article implies? If Senna's relationship with Prost was mischaracterized - How? Prost is quoted agreeing but no info is given. This is especially important because we know for a fact that Balestre ruled in Prost's favor in the case that is highlighted in the doc. I can't even begin to judge some of the other claims or opinions on this piece because they are completely without substance. Too bad - seems like there is a good discussion in there. Perhaps I'll find it in the Hacker News comment section unrelated to the article itself.

schoen 6y ago
> too temerary By the way, the best English equivalent of temerário/temerario is "temerarious". [Edit: per your reply, I should also point out that "temerarious" is an extremely uncommon English word too; it's just that "temerary" may not even exist at all.]
- gota 6y ago
  Thanks - I'm not particularly stressed about sounding 100% idiomatic as long as I get the point across (and am not flat out wrong). In this case I think I got the term from an Italian friend, so it might relate to some other word in italian. Also neither of temerário/temerario are common at all in Portuguese or Spanish, so I the idiomatic term the other way around, in the expression I used, should be 'imprudente' I think
  - schoen 6y ago
    I think the most idiomatic English terms to criticize someone who is incautious or too eager to take big risks spontaneously would probably be "reckless" or "rash". :-) (In English, "imprudent" refers more often to actions or decisions rather than to people.)