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Really your buying Threadripper Pro's and your running GIMP on it, I find that hard to believe.

dragontamer 6y ago
I mean... Gimp works. And if your first job is CAD, Programming, or something non-artistic, Gimp is what I'm willing to pay for. I'm willing to pay $4000+ for my profession's tools. But when it comes to a hobby, cheap or free is better.
- c0nsumer 6y ago
  Affinity Photo is SO much better and currently only $24.99. May be worth taking a look: https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/photo/ https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/photo/
  - dharmab 6y ago
    Affinity doesn't run on Linux, so it's not a replacement for GIMP as a Unix hacker's art tool. I like Krita (https://krita.org https://krita.org) as a painting tool. Darktable (https://www.darktable.org https://www.darktable.org) does photo editing, although I haven't used it myself.
  - dbspin 6y ago
    Not sure why this is being downvoted. Gimp has a high learning curve and is primitive compared to contemporary commercial tools. I completely understand a disdain for Adobe's subscription model, but there are fantastic relatively low cost commercial options now. Open source is still a wasteland for actually usable video / audio and even photo editing applications. Lots of apps that are functional on paper, but have major workflow, file support or UX limitations that make them limited in practice. Edit: Guarantee not a single person downvoting this is an audio video or photography professional. This attitude of OSS above all, damn the users is likely part of the reason there aren't more viable creative apps for Linux, and more viable OSS creative apps overall.
    - q3k 6y ago
      Not everyone who does light image editing as part of their professional setting needs professional tools straight away. The mental overhead of having to manage software installation, licensing, etc. is just not worth it, even if you're willing to spend the extra $300 per year for it. And as mentioned, Affinity/Adobe software is not available on Linux, which immediately disqualifies it for me personally, even though I'd like to upgrade past GIMP and I'm very much used to Photoshop after years of using it.
    - katbyte 6y ago
      I would prefer to have photoshop but cost, however if the only alternative was gimp i'd throw all the money at them for my sanity. I use pixelmator pro instead and am quite happy with it.
    - Mauricebranagh 6y ago
      Especially in the context of workstation class systems where your looking at $5k per CPU and your quite possibly looking at 10g connections for your horizontal cable runs. At a certain point the old HP (before they where shit) Joke if you have to ask the price you cant afford it still applies.
      - dragontamer 6y ago
        I think this fundamentally misunderstands how computer users work. Lets say I'm a programmer who needs to spin up multiple VMs / Docker / etc. etc. to properly emulate some server setup. Multiple cores and tons of RAM (more than 256GB) needed on a regular basis, with a few NVMe drives in RAID0 so that those VMs can be snapshot in blazing fast speeds. Paying $100 to $4000 for VMWare workstation, Visual Studio subscriptions, SQLServer non-express, Red Hat Virtual Machine License, Visio, and other such top-class tools would be 100% reasonable, along with the $10,000+ Threadripper pro computer with 512GB RAM or whatever. But image editing wouldn't be part of that user's workflow. Suddenly, the professional developer is asked to make a web-banner on the top of his Github document with the logo of the company on it. Guess what? Said developer probably is downloading GIMP. The hassle of going to corporate to be compensated for lol $25 on another image editor is just not worth the time.
- dagmx 6y ago
  Highly recommend Krita over Gimp. its a much better product and has much better tooling and color handling
  - throw8932894 6y ago
    I tried to load 30GB image to Krita, it crashes. Gimp handles it pretty well.
    - justinclift 6y ago
      Did you mean MB rather than GB? Kind of wondering what kind of image would be 30GB... :)
      - Solid_Applaud 6y ago
        Aperio SVS
        justinclift 6y ago
        Thanks. Found info on that file format: * https://openslide.org/formats/aperio/ https://openslide.org/formats/aperio/ * https://web.archive.org/web/20120420105738/http://www.aperio.com/documents/api/Aperio_Digital_Slides_and_Third-party_data_interchange.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20120420105738/http://www.aperio... Pages 14 onward give the info. Seems like it's a variation of TIFF, in tiled format. Main tile (image) size is 120k x 80k. That's huge! 29GB when saved uncompressed. I'd hope most applications would use the optional compression features. :)
        throw8932894 6y ago
        This was 360 degree mosaic, about 100kX100k
    - justinclift 6y ago
      Hmmmm, how much ram did the PC have that his happened on?
  - 6y ago
account42 6y ago
GIMP can use a lot of ram, you need those 8 ram slots to run it properly.
jeffbee 6y ago
I also find this preposterous, but it's what the article measured. For me it would be a replacement for my HP z-series workstation I use mostly to build C++ software.

I mean... Gimp works. And if your first job is CAD, Programming, or something non-artistic, Gimp is what I'm willing to pay for. I'm willing to pay $4000+ for my profession's tools. But when it comes to a hobby, cheap or free is better.

c0nsumer 6y ago
Affinity Photo is SO much better and currently only $24.99. May be worth taking a look: https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/photo/ https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/photo/
- dharmab 6y ago
  Affinity doesn't run on Linux, so it's not a replacement for GIMP as a Unix hacker's art tool. I like Krita (https://krita.org https://krita.org) as a painting tool. Darktable (https://www.darktable.org https://www.darktable.org) does photo editing, although I haven't used it myself.
- dbspin 6y ago
  Not sure why this is being downvoted. Gimp has a high learning curve and is primitive compared to contemporary commercial tools. I completely understand a disdain for Adobe's subscription model, but there are fantastic relatively low cost commercial options now. Open source is still a wasteland for actually usable video / audio and even photo editing applications. Lots of apps that are functional on paper, but have major workflow, file support or UX limitations that make them limited in practice. Edit: Guarantee not a single person downvoting this is an audio video or photography professional. This attitude of OSS above all, damn the users is likely part of the reason there aren't more viable creative apps for Linux, and more viable OSS creative apps overall.
  - q3k 6y ago
    Not everyone who does light image editing as part of their professional setting needs professional tools straight away. The mental overhead of having to manage software installation, licensing, etc. is just not worth it, even if you're willing to spend the extra $300 per year for it. And as mentioned, Affinity/Adobe software is not available on Linux, which immediately disqualifies it for me personally, even though I'd like to upgrade past GIMP and I'm very much used to Photoshop after years of using it.
  - katbyte 6y ago
    I would prefer to have photoshop but cost, however if the only alternative was gimp i'd throw all the money at them for my sanity. I use pixelmator pro instead and am quite happy with it.
  - Mauricebranagh 6y ago
    Especially in the context of workstation class systems where your looking at $5k per CPU and your quite possibly looking at 10g connections for your horizontal cable runs. At a certain point the old HP (before they where shit) Joke if you have to ask the price you cant afford it still applies.
    - dragontamer 6y ago
      I think this fundamentally misunderstands how computer users work. Lets say I'm a programmer who needs to spin up multiple VMs / Docker / etc. etc. to properly emulate some server setup. Multiple cores and tons of RAM (more than 256GB) needed on a regular basis, with a few NVMe drives in RAID0 so that those VMs can be snapshot in blazing fast speeds. Paying $100 to $4000 for VMWare workstation, Visual Studio subscriptions, SQLServer non-express, Red Hat Virtual Machine License, Visio, and other such top-class tools would be 100% reasonable, along with the $10,000+ Threadripper pro computer with 512GB RAM or whatever. But image editing wouldn't be part of that user's workflow. Suddenly, the professional developer is asked to make a web-banner on the top of his Github document with the logo of the company on it. Guess what? Said developer probably is downloading GIMP. The hassle of going to corporate to be compensated for lol $25 on another image editor is just not worth the time.
dagmx 6y ago
Highly recommend Krita over Gimp. its a much better product and has much better tooling and color handling
- throw8932894 6y ago
  I tried to load 30GB image to Krita, it crashes. Gimp handles it pretty well.
  - justinclift 6y ago
    Did you mean MB rather than GB? Kind of wondering what kind of image would be 30GB... :)
    - Solid_Applaud 6y ago
      Aperio SVS
      - justinclift 6y ago
        Thanks. Found info on that file format: * https://openslide.org/formats/aperio/ https://openslide.org/formats/aperio/ * https://web.archive.org/web/20120420105738/http://www.aperio.com/documents/api/Aperio_Digital_Slides_and_Third-party_data_interchange.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20120420105738/http://www.aperio... Pages 14 onward give the info. Seems like it's a variation of TIFF, in tiled format. Main tile (image) size is 120k x 80k. That's huge! 29GB when saved uncompressed. I'd hope most applications would use the optional compression features. :)
      - throw8932894 6y ago
        This was 360 degree mosaic, about 100kX100k
  - justinclift 6y ago
    Hmmmm, how much ram did the PC have that his happened on?
- 6y ago

account42 6y ago

GIMP can use a lot of ram, you need those 8 ram slots to run it properly.

jeffbee 6y ago

I also find this preposterous, but it's what the article measured. For me it would be a replacement for my HP z-series workstation I use mostly to build C++ software.