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Defendant claims he didn't attend because he couldn't afford the costs - https://uk.trustpilot.com/reviews/6022794e679d9708b4d03f7e https://uk.trustpilot.com/re

Defendant claims he didn't attend because he couldn't afford the costs - https://uk.trustpilot.com/reviews/6022794e679d9708b4d03f7e https://uk.trustpilot.com/reviews/6022794e679d9708b4d03f7e

londons_explore 6y ago
In a civil case like this, I don't think there is any form of legal aid. If you don't have the money to pay upfront, you lose. That's the way the law works. If it happens to you, just file for bankruptcy and get it sorted rapidly. You need a few hundred pounds for bankruptcy proceedings, so don't spend them on lawyers!
- csunbird 6y ago
  > If it happens to you, just file for bankruptcy and get it sorted rapidly. You need a few hundred pounds for bankruptcy proceedings, so don't spend them on lawyers! This makes it almost impossible for you to get a credit/lease a house/work with the banks in the future. Do I feel like he over-stepped by openly calling the business scammers? Yes. Do I feel like the firm/judge was stupid to ask 6000 pounds upfront, because someone just sued you and make a ruling for 25000 afterwards? Totally. Nobody should be asked to pay that much amount before showing up to the court, just to be able to excersize their legal rights and to be able to presented , I feel like the judge made a huge mistake as well.
  - bdowling 6y ago
    > Do I feel like the firm/judge was stupid to ask 6000 pounds upfront, because someone just sued you and make a ruling for 25000 afterwards? Totally. In the UK when you lose a lawsuit you are required to pay the other party's legal costs. It appears that the defendant had previously lost on some portion of the case. Here is the paragraph of the decision relating to that: > The Defendant was ordered to pay the Claimant's costs up to and including the hearing of 6th July 2020 on the indemnity basis. This costs order has not been complied with. The Claimant seeks its costs of the disposal hearing. The schedule of costs for summary assessment seeks a further sum of £3,450. This sum is both reasonable and proportionate and I will make a costs order in the sum requested. https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/QB/2021/85.html https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/QB/2021/85.html
notahacker 6y ago
Defendant also told the court "I have already made it perfectly clear that this case should never be heard in court and I will not be giving it any credence or legitimacy by attending." I'd argue angry man gives legal process he doesn't understand the proverbial middle finger is a more plausible explanation for why it ended up as a summary judgement than judge invents novel way to reduce his case backlog by demanding upfront fees for the defendant to attend.
- bserge 6y ago
  Individual going head on against the system. A tale as old as time. I've been thinking a lot about how unforgiving human systems are. We're all governed by them, and yet the people who put them in place are long retired or dead and it takes an insane amount of work to make even the slightest of changes. As long as there's no critical mass of unsatisfied people, it keeps chugging along. Some are caught in the cogs of the machine, maimed and killed, but society doesn't care as long as the majority is fine. If/when that critical mass is reached, the system is either forcefully changed, often drastically, or crashes completely and a new one is built. Rather fascinating.
M2Ys4U 6y ago
That's not what he told the court: "I have already made it perfectly clear that this case should never be heard in court and I will not be giving it any credence or legitimacy by attending."

Defendant claims he didn't attend because he couldn't afford the costs - https://uk.trustpilot.com/reviews/6022794e679d9708b4d03f7e https://uk.trustpilot.com/reviews/6022794e679d9708b4d03f7e

londons_explore 6y ago

In a civil case like this, I don't think there is any form of legal aid. If you don't have the money to pay upfront, you lose. That's the way the law works. If it happens to you, just file for bankruptcy and get it sorted rapidly. You need a few hundred pounds for bankruptcy proceedings, so don't spend them on lawyers!

csunbird 6y ago
> If it happens to you, just file for bankruptcy and get it sorted rapidly. You need a few hundred pounds for bankruptcy proceedings, so don't spend them on lawyers! This makes it almost impossible for you to get a credit/lease a house/work with the banks in the future. Do I feel like he over-stepped by openly calling the business scammers? Yes. Do I feel like the firm/judge was stupid to ask 6000 pounds upfront, because someone just sued you and make a ruling for 25000 afterwards? Totally. Nobody should be asked to pay that much amount before showing up to the court, just to be able to excersize their legal rights and to be able to presented , I feel like the judge made a huge mistake as well.
- bdowling 6y ago
  > Do I feel like the firm/judge was stupid to ask 6000 pounds upfront, because someone just sued you and make a ruling for 25000 afterwards? Totally. In the UK when you lose a lawsuit you are required to pay the other party's legal costs. It appears that the defendant had previously lost on some portion of the case. Here is the paragraph of the decision relating to that: > The Defendant was ordered to pay the Claimant's costs up to and including the hearing of 6th July 2020 on the indemnity basis. This costs order has not been complied with. The Claimant seeks its costs of the disposal hearing. The schedule of costs for summary assessment seeks a further sum of £3,450. This sum is both reasonable and proportionate and I will make a costs order in the sum requested. https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/QB/2021/85.html https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/QB/2021/85.html

notahacker 6y ago

Defendant also told the court "I have already made it perfectly clear that this case should never be heard in court and I will not be giving it any credence or legitimacy by attending." I'd argue angry man gives legal process he doesn't understand the proverbial middle finger is a more plausible explanation for why it ended up as a summary judgement than judge invents novel way to reduce his case backlog by demanding upfront fees for the defendant to attend.

bserge 6y ago
Individual going head on against the system. A tale as old as time. I've been thinking a lot about how unforgiving human systems are. We're all governed by them, and yet the people who put them in place are long retired or dead and it takes an insane amount of work to make even the slightest of changes. As long as there's no critical mass of unsatisfied people, it keeps chugging along. Some are caught in the cogs of the machine, maimed and killed, but society doesn't care as long as the majority is fine. If/when that critical mass is reached, the system is either forcefully changed, often drastically, or crashes completely and a new one is built. Rather fascinating.

M2Ys4U 6y ago

That's not what he told the court: "I have already made it perfectly clear that this case should never be heard in court and I will not be giving it any credence or legitimacy by attending."