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"that serves a $5B/yr business." Ok but is that static site primarily generating the $5B in revenue ? That's more relevant to know. Having a static site for a

"that serves a $5B/yr business." Ok but is that static site primarily generating the $5B in revenue ? That's more relevant to know. Having a static site for a business where the revenue is generated elsewhere is not that big of a deal in my opinion. Yes I get your point that the $5B company is hosting a static site on S3 which is cool but what will be cooler is if THAT static site is the primary revenue driver. I bet it isn't.

monsieurbanana 6y ago
I tried to imagine what kind of website could generate $5B without requiring more than $100/month of hardware. Seems impossible.
- busterarm 6y ago
  Just take a look at the top 10 adwords keywords and let your mind wander. Our business touched 4 out of 10...
  - monsieurbanana 6y ago
    Found in a random blog post, top 10 keywords: - Insurance - Loans - Mortgage - Attorney - Credit - Lawyer - Donate - Degree - Hosting - Claim Still can't see it. But just to be sure, you're saying that the $100/month website was directly generating most of that $5B? And not, for example, being just a bridge between users and an army of attorneys?
    - busterarm 6y ago
      Qualified leads are king in that business. Keep in mind that a large number of law firms in this space do not try cases and just generate and sell leads. Yes, obviously there's a lot more that goes into it, but my point was that websites can be extremely simple in their infrastructure and still be extremely effective.
busterarm 6y ago
The online property only accounts for about 10% of the total ad spend (over $200M/yr). The website accounts for exactly 0% of the bread and butter (high volume, low profit) business, but easily 60% or more of the the rest of it (low volume, absurd profit). I've talked at length about it before in comments. Not really looking for the repeat discussions.
vsareto 6y ago
I think it's more along the lines that a $5B/yr business would typically have gone to a large contracting firm, and the resulting solution would have been over-engineered with all of the front and back-end stuff and resulted in a higher cost to solve the same problem.
- busterarm 6y ago
  ^ You got it completely. Thank you. Actually probably the output would be worse, because there's a significant amount of domain knowledge in building an effective website in this space. The only companies that are effective at it do it in house or go to specialists in the space. Car dealership advertising is actually extremely similar in this regard. There are just a few big players working with hundreds to thousands of dealers.

monsieurbanana 6y ago

I tried to imagine what kind of website could generate $5B without requiring more than $100/month of hardware. Seems impossible.

busterarm 6y ago
Just take a look at the top 10 adwords keywords and let your mind wander. Our business touched 4 out of 10...
- monsieurbanana 6y ago
  Found in a random blog post, top 10 keywords: - Insurance - Loans - Mortgage - Attorney - Credit - Lawyer - Donate - Degree - Hosting - Claim Still can't see it. But just to be sure, you're saying that the $100/month website was directly generating most of that $5B? And not, for example, being just a bridge between users and an army of attorneys?
  - busterarm 6y ago
    Qualified leads are king in that business. Keep in mind that a large number of law firms in this space do not try cases and just generate and sell leads. Yes, obviously there's a lot more that goes into it, but my point was that websites can be extremely simple in their infrastructure and still be extremely effective.

busterarm 6y ago

The online property only accounts for about 10% of the total ad spend (over $200M/yr). The website accounts for exactly 0% of the bread and butter (high volume, low profit) business, but easily 60% or more of the the rest of it (low volume, absurd profit). I've talked at length about it before in comments. Not really looking for the repeat discussions.

vsareto 6y ago

I think it's more along the lines that a $5B/yr business would typically have gone to a large contracting firm, and the resulting solution would have been over-engineered with all of the front and back-end stuff and resulted in a higher cost to solve the same problem.

busterarm 6y ago
^ You got it completely. Thank you. Actually probably the output would be worse, because there's a significant amount of domain knowledge in building an effective website in this space. The only companies that are effective at it do it in house or go to specialists in the space. Car dealership advertising is actually extremely similar in this regard. There are just a few big players working with hundreds to thousands of dealers.