> So far I haven't met a user who asked for ads, unmuted autoplaying videos, popups, tracking, loading screens, and UI that's basically broken by design. What

> So far I haven't met a user who asked for ads, unmuted autoplaying videos, popups, tracking, loading screens, and UI that's basically broken by design. What does that have to do with React and others? Tracking and ads are a regulation problem, pop-ups and auto-start videos are user-agent problems, and wait... loading screens? I don't understand, where do you see a loading screen in a normal web page? I mean in an SPA, sure but that's just bringing rendering to the client and people have been doing it since the invention of AJAX. React and others didn't make the impossible possible, they just increase the development speed and make it much easier to manage complex state. So, the post is against the complexity in development, you are against the complexity in the average website. I'm suggesting that the first one is neither the reason for the second, nor the enabler, and you can see that kind of user-hostility even in web-sites made with mootools, let alone jQuery or react.