> It's disheartening to explain this over and over again, but these frameworks are a-ok because user's expectations for the web have grown astronomically. User

> It's disheartening to explain this over and over again, but these frameworks are a-ok because user's expectations for the web have grown astronomically. Users absolutely don't give a shit about you using Grunt, Gulp, Burb, Babel, and the billions of other tools. They just want to pay the meal they ordered online.