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I think the objection to statistics about immigration (or minority populations) and crime is that they are inherently misleading because they generally compare

I think the objection to statistics about immigration (or minority populations) and crime is that they are inherently misleading because they generally compare crime rate to the population as a whole (as you did, jumping to the per capita), rather than to equivalent socio-economic groups. Consider two headlines: "immigrants commit most of the violent crime in this country" vs "most violent crime in this country is committed by poor people, and most immigrants are poor". How you phrase the headline makes a big difference in how people might think about policy.

so_tiring 6y ago
Perhaps. Although I think in both cases the answer is that I would want fewer or no immigrants. The fact that "they're violent because they're immigrants" or "they're violent because they're poor" is quite irrelevant if you are the fireman being attacked by "youth" [1] There is an issue in France regarding attacks on firefighters. It's most likely caused by systemic racism and the constant discrimination faced by immigrants when they get controlled or arrested by firefighters. Or, quite simply, as you mentioned, poverty, forcing people to throw steel balls and fireworks at firemen, so they can feed their families. [1] https://www.thelocal.fr/20190820/attacks-are-becoming-the-new-normal-for-french-firefighters https://www.thelocal.fr/20190820/attacks-are-becoming-the-ne...
kruxigt 6y ago
It is very clear that, compensating for living standards, people of African and MENA descent commit more crimes than native Swedes while people of East Asian descent do not.
- kruxigt 6y ago
  Of course, such facts get downvoted as per usual.