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Half of the content on r/popular is hate speech about the right. It's among the most partisan, and from one point of view, toxic, sites on the Internet, but app

Half of the content on r/popular is hate speech about the right. It's among the most partisan, and from one point of view, toxic, sites on the Internet, but apparently, from another point of view, that's just "funny memes". In contrast to the Hacker News guideline "assume good faith", the attitude on reddit is more like "assume anyone who disagrees is evil".

matsemann 6y ago
> Half of the content on r/popular is hate speech about the right. [Citation needed]. You don't do your point any favors by being hyperbolic. And as always, the "both sides are both equally bad"-rhetoric is just discussing in bad faith.
- leereeves 6y ago
  I was going to say my citation is r/popular itself, but it looks like there's less of it now that the election is over. During the election it was disgusting. The toxic content is still there though, like a LeopardsAteMyFace post crowing about the death of Ron Wright, and as if to prove my point: "This thread has been locked due to extremely toxic and rude comments." Such as the current top comment "...I'm really past playing nice with even the memory of these fucks...... Rot in hell, Ron." The discussion was too toxic even for the LeopardsAteMyFace mods, but they didn't delete it. It's still visible, and featured on r/popular. That sub (and the other we-hate-conservatives subs) are often filled with hate speech like that, and yet, unlike r/TheDonald, they haven't been quarantined. https://www.reddit.com/r/LeopardsAteMyFace/comments/lflxdi/another_gop_covid_casualty/ https://www.reddit.com/r/LeopardsAteMyFace/comments/lflxdi/a...
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  - Kbelicius 6y ago
    > The toxic content is still there though, like a LeopardsAteMyFace post crowing about the death of Ron Wright, and as if to prove my point: "This thread has been locked due to extremely toxic and rude comments." Such as the top comment "...I'm really past playing nice with even the memory of these fucks...... Rot in hell, Ron." Comment that you decided to quote contains no conservative hating just hate towards Ron, because of his behavior and others who behave in that way. Why would you even think that that was a conservative hating comment?
    - leereeves 6y ago
      > Why would you even think that that was a conservative hating comment? The hate in that comment wasn't directed only at Ron: "people like this", "these fucks". The comment doesn't specify who "these fucks" are, but the sub generally directs hate toward conservatives, so that's a reasonable assumption. > because of his behavior and others who behave in that way Others who behave in what way? The post I linked contains only a tweet from him criticizing the hypocrisy of allowing big stores to remain open while closing small businesses. Is that hate-worthy? Surely not, so I assume you're referring to something else. Please be specific.
      - TomSwirly 6y ago
        A year of people like this in our faces telling us that there's no pandemic and we're all sheep, and we lose our patience. Four years of Trump screaming lies, hatred and incoherent abuse at us, and we lose our patience. Conservatives go out of their way to be hated - they literally talk about "Liberal tears" all the time - and then they get offended when it works. I'm not even in the United States anymore. The level of contempt that Europeans have for Trump would just stagger you, and the same is true for the few Asians I know. If you tell everyone you want to be hated, you act in a hateful way, and you cause tremendous destruction, you can't act all surprised when people end up actually hating you.
        encom 6y ago
        > The level of contempt that Europeans have for Trump would just stagger you, Don't believe what your TV tells you. There are plenty of European Trump supporters.
      - Kbelicius 6y ago
        > The fact that people like this die due to covid and that you have people who "don't care until affects them" is a sad condition in this country and I'm really past playing nice with even the memory of these fucks...... That is the whole sentence of which you quoted a part earlier. That sentence clearly specifies who "these fucks" are. > The post I linked contains only a tweet from him criticizing the hypocrisy of allowing big stores to remain open while closing small businesses. Is that hate-worthy? Is that hate-worthy? I don't think that pointing out hypocrisy is hate-worthy but I see no criticism of hypocrisy in that tweet. There is no hypocrisy, by default, in closing some businesses and not others. I just noticed something. Ron did the same thing you did. You left out a part of the sentence that clearly show who "these fucks" are. Ron left out what these other small business are. He included restaurants but I don't see how anybody could claim that in this situation there is hypocrisy in closing restaurants and not closing general stores. Was that on purpose on both your accounts I don't know but lying can be hate-worthy.
  - TomSwirly 6y ago
    > crowing about the death of Ron Wright This man spent the last few months of his life fighting against any medical, scientific response to COVID, claiming that it was a hoax. Half a million Americans are dead - and they died in a truly horrible fashion. What exactly do you expect the response to be?
    - leereeves 6y ago
      > claiming that it was a hoax. Did he? I found nothing on either Google or Duck for "ron wright hoax". I know some Republicans said that, but by no means every one.

matsemann 6y ago

> Half of the content on r/popular is hate speech about the right. [Citation needed]. You don't do your point any favors by being hyperbolic. And as always, the "both sides are both equally bad"-rhetoric is just discussing in bad faith.

leereeves 6y ago
I was going to say my citation is r/popular itself, but it looks like there's less of it now that the election is over. During the election it was disgusting. The toxic content is still there though, like a LeopardsAteMyFace post crowing about the death of Ron Wright, and as if to prove my point: "This thread has been locked due to extremely toxic and rude comments." Such as the current top comment "...I'm really past playing nice with even the memory of these fucks...... Rot in hell, Ron." The discussion was too toxic even for the LeopardsAteMyFace mods, but they didn't delete it. It's still visible, and featured on r/popular. That sub (and the other we-hate-conservatives subs) are often filled with hate speech like that, and yet, unlike r/TheDonald, they haven't been quarantined. https://www.reddit.com/r/LeopardsAteMyFace/comments/lflxdi/another_gop_covid_casualty/ https://www.reddit.com/r/LeopardsAteMyFace/comments/lflxdi/a...
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- Kbelicius 6y ago
  > The toxic content is still there though, like a LeopardsAteMyFace post crowing about the death of Ron Wright, and as if to prove my point: "This thread has been locked due to extremely toxic and rude comments." Such as the top comment "...I'm really past playing nice with even the memory of these fucks...... Rot in hell, Ron." Comment that you decided to quote contains no conservative hating just hate towards Ron, because of his behavior and others who behave in that way. Why would you even think that that was a conservative hating comment?
  - leereeves 6y ago
    > Why would you even think that that was a conservative hating comment? The hate in that comment wasn't directed only at Ron: "people like this", "these fucks". The comment doesn't specify who "these fucks" are, but the sub generally directs hate toward conservatives, so that's a reasonable assumption. > because of his behavior and others who behave in that way Others who behave in what way? The post I linked contains only a tweet from him criticizing the hypocrisy of allowing big stores to remain open while closing small businesses. Is that hate-worthy? Surely not, so I assume you're referring to something else. Please be specific.
    - TomSwirly 6y ago
      A year of people like this in our faces telling us that there's no pandemic and we're all sheep, and we lose our patience. Four years of Trump screaming lies, hatred and incoherent abuse at us, and we lose our patience. Conservatives go out of their way to be hated - they literally talk about "Liberal tears" all the time - and then they get offended when it works. I'm not even in the United States anymore. The level of contempt that Europeans have for Trump would just stagger you, and the same is true for the few Asians I know. If you tell everyone you want to be hated, you act in a hateful way, and you cause tremendous destruction, you can't act all surprised when people end up actually hating you.
      - encom 6y ago
        > The level of contempt that Europeans have for Trump would just stagger you, Don't believe what your TV tells you. There are plenty of European Trump supporters.
    - Kbelicius 6y ago
      > The fact that people like this die due to covid and that you have people who "don't care until affects them" is a sad condition in this country and I'm really past playing nice with even the memory of these fucks...... That is the whole sentence of which you quoted a part earlier. That sentence clearly specifies who "these fucks" are. > The post I linked contains only a tweet from him criticizing the hypocrisy of allowing big stores to remain open while closing small businesses. Is that hate-worthy? Is that hate-worthy? I don't think that pointing out hypocrisy is hate-worthy but I see no criticism of hypocrisy in that tweet. There is no hypocrisy, by default, in closing some businesses and not others. I just noticed something. Ron did the same thing you did. You left out a part of the sentence that clearly show who "these fucks" are. Ron left out what these other small business are. He included restaurants but I don't see how anybody could claim that in this situation there is hypocrisy in closing restaurants and not closing general stores. Was that on purpose on both your accounts I don't know but lying can be hate-worthy.
- TomSwirly 6y ago
  > crowing about the death of Ron Wright This man spent the last few months of his life fighting against any medical, scientific response to COVID, claiming that it was a hoax. Half a million Americans are dead - and they died in a truly horrible fashion. What exactly do you expect the response to be?
  - leereeves 6y ago
    > claiming that it was a hoax. Did he? I found nothing on either Google or Duck for "ron wright hoax". I know some Republicans said that, but by no means every one.