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This is an absurd. [1] - https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Black-attacks-on-Asians-racism-or-opportunity-3265893.php https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Blac

This is an absurd. [1] - https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Black-attacks-on-Asians-racism-or-opportunity-3265893.php https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Black-attacks-on-Asians-... It is not about covid. Sometimes people Do belong in prison, not all people can live free.

MikeUt 6y ago
Perhaps the US needs something like the German Pressekodex to regulate how minorities are mentioned in the news. Auto-translated from German: Directive 12.1 – Reporting on criminal offences In the reporting of criminal offences, care must be taken to ensure that the mention of the affiliation of suspects or perpetrators to ethnic, religious or other minorities does not lead to a discriminatory generalisation of individual misconduct. As a rule, affiliation should not be mentioned, unless there is a well-founded public interest. It should be noted in particular that the mention could fuel prejudice against minorities. https://www.presserat.de/files/presserat/dokumente/pressekodex/Pressekodex_Leitsaetze_RL12.1.pdf https://www.presserat.de/files/presserat/dokumente/pressekod...
- pseudo0 6y ago
  Ignoring a societal problem and mandating that the press boycott reporting on it sounds like a very ineffective strategy for actually improving the situation.
- superflit 6y ago
  Look I do get it your good intentions. But it will just make more problems. If the reality hurt my feelings or others it is not reality that should be bent. We need to be able to say and call it: "HeY xxx group we have a problem, a long standing problem. We need to change our culture and start shaming people who does X or Z. We can't Protect anyone just because they are "our" tribe. Neither we can blame it for things done by other tribes centuries ago." While we don't talk serious and frank we will be always around the issue. Every ten years we will have some new term to avoid this discussion. I am a minority and my "group" was know for "scams" and troubles. It got so bad people like me avoided to speak our native language. The community started to exclude the bad apples. And suddenly the bad apples did not have more "contacts" or networks and started to "adjust" or go back to our country. We need to pursue and be able to say the truth. And we need to shame this bad behavior. As *today* one friend of mine did a instagram video saying that she is not Afro-american. That she is Haitian. That is an indirect call. We non-whites already shame ourselves, the others and the people back home. I need the good Afro-americans leaders and celebreties to shame the bad apples and not only appear when it is to blame white people.
  - happytoexplain 6y ago
    You said you understand the intention, but then said that the intention is to avoid hurting feelings. You let reason slide for a moment to get an antagonistic jab in there.
  - jhowell 6y ago
    > "HeY xxx group we have a problem, a long standing problem. We need to change our culture and start shaming people who does X or Z. We can't Protect anyone just because they are "our" tribe. Neither we can blame it for things done by other tribes centuries ago." If you have any interest in being accurate in your view of American history, may I recommend one of my favorites, What Hath God Wraught - The Transformation of America, 1815 - 1848 by Howe published by Oxford Press, really a great series to be honest. Also quick math tells me 1868 was 153 years ago versus a couple of centuries. My dad was born in 1930's. His father, my grandfather was born in the 1880's. Do you know your grandparents or great grandparents. If they lived in the US they saw some violent, normalized behavior on a level and duration unprecedented in human history. Your identification of the longstanding problem and your proposed solution seems, racist, because you blame people and policies for shortcomings.
    - superflit 6y ago
      "If you have any interest in being accurate in your view of American history, may I recommend one of my favorites, What Hath God Wraught - The Transformation of America, 1815 - 1848 by Howe published by Oxford Press, really a great series to be honest." Accurate or the one that fit your bias? "Also quick math tells me 1868 was 153 years ago versus a couple of centuries. My dad was born in 1930's. His father, my grandfather was born in the 1880's. Do you know your grandparents or great grandparents. If they lived in the US they saw some violent, normalized behavior on a level and duration unprecedented in human history." ahem 1853 -> 19th Century. Yes my father was in 1945 and grandpa in 1920 and grand grandpa in 1880s. They were brought as slaves and they lived as slaves. There are horror stories in the family. But none of my brothers, cousins or uncles are knocking old people. Yes we have the felon uncle but no family is perfect. "Your identification of the longstanding problem and your proposed solution seems, racist, because you blame people and policies for shortcomings. " I did not provide any solution but is very hard to think an old Thai guy was involved in slave trade. Be aware we Non-Whites we don't have the need to virtue signaling we just see the reality. We need to give more voice to people like Thomas Sowell. Do we consider a group of able to have an agency and solve its own problem or we keep them managed? I still think they have agency. And I am still waiting for "celebrities" cry about this bad behavior.
- lumberingjack 6y ago
  Have you visited Germany lately it's extremely dangerous for ethnic and minority reasons complete crap hole compared to what it was before they took down that damn wall I'm telling you if they left that wall up the whole country would have been better

MikeUt 6y ago

Perhaps the US needs something like the German Pressekodex to regulate how minorities are mentioned in the news. Auto-translated from German: Directive 12.1 – Reporting on criminal offences In the reporting of criminal offences, care must be taken to ensure that the mention of the affiliation of suspects or perpetrators to ethnic, religious or other minorities does not lead to a discriminatory generalisation of individual misconduct. As a rule, affiliation should not be mentioned, unless there is a well-founded public interest. It should be noted in particular that the mention could fuel prejudice against minorities. https://www.presserat.de/files/presserat/dokumente/pressekodex/Pressekodex_Leitsaetze_RL12.1.pdf https://www.presserat.de/files/presserat/dokumente/pressekod...

pseudo0 6y ago
Ignoring a societal problem and mandating that the press boycott reporting on it sounds like a very ineffective strategy for actually improving the situation.
superflit 6y ago
Look I do get it your good intentions. But it will just make more problems. If the reality hurt my feelings or others it is not reality that should be bent. We need to be able to say and call it: "HeY xxx group we have a problem, a long standing problem. We need to change our culture and start shaming people who does X or Z. We can't Protect anyone just because they are "our" tribe. Neither we can blame it for things done by other tribes centuries ago." While we don't talk serious and frank we will be always around the issue. Every ten years we will have some new term to avoid this discussion. I am a minority and my "group" was know for "scams" and troubles. It got so bad people like me avoided to speak our native language. The community started to exclude the bad apples. And suddenly the bad apples did not have more "contacts" or networks and started to "adjust" or go back to our country. We need to pursue and be able to say the truth. And we need to shame this bad behavior. As *today* one friend of mine did a instagram video saying that she is not Afro-american. That she is Haitian. That is an indirect call. We non-whites already shame ourselves, the others and the people back home. I need the good Afro-americans leaders and celebreties to shame the bad apples and not only appear when it is to blame white people.
- happytoexplain 6y ago
  You said you understand the intention, but then said that the intention is to avoid hurting feelings. You let reason slide for a moment to get an antagonistic jab in there.
- jhowell 6y ago
  > "HeY xxx group we have a problem, a long standing problem. We need to change our culture and start shaming people who does X or Z. We can't Protect anyone just because they are "our" tribe. Neither we can blame it for things done by other tribes centuries ago." If you have any interest in being accurate in your view of American history, may I recommend one of my favorites, What Hath God Wraught - The Transformation of America, 1815 - 1848 by Howe published by Oxford Press, really a great series to be honest. Also quick math tells me 1868 was 153 years ago versus a couple of centuries. My dad was born in 1930's. His father, my grandfather was born in the 1880's. Do you know your grandparents or great grandparents. If they lived in the US they saw some violent, normalized behavior on a level and duration unprecedented in human history. Your identification of the longstanding problem and your proposed solution seems, racist, because you blame people and policies for shortcomings.
  - superflit 6y ago
    "If you have any interest in being accurate in your view of American history, may I recommend one of my favorites, What Hath God Wraught - The Transformation of America, 1815 - 1848 by Howe published by Oxford Press, really a great series to be honest." Accurate or the one that fit your bias? "Also quick math tells me 1868 was 153 years ago versus a couple of centuries. My dad was born in 1930's. His father, my grandfather was born in the 1880's. Do you know your grandparents or great grandparents. If they lived in the US they saw some violent, normalized behavior on a level and duration unprecedented in human history." ahem 1853 -> 19th Century. Yes my father was in 1945 and grandpa in 1920 and grand grandpa in 1880s. They were brought as slaves and they lived as slaves. There are horror stories in the family. But none of my brothers, cousins or uncles are knocking old people. Yes we have the felon uncle but no family is perfect. "Your identification of the longstanding problem and your proposed solution seems, racist, because you blame people and policies for shortcomings. " I did not provide any solution but is very hard to think an old Thai guy was involved in slave trade. Be aware we Non-Whites we don't have the need to virtue signaling we just see the reality. We need to give more voice to people like Thomas Sowell. Do we consider a group of able to have an agency and solve its own problem or we keep them managed? I still think they have agency. And I am still waiting for "celebrities" cry about this bad behavior.
lumberingjack 6y ago
Have you visited Germany lately it's extremely dangerous for ethnic and minority reasons complete crap hole compared to what it was before they took down that damn wall I'm telling you if they left that wall up the whole country would have been better