Ah, thanks for the elaborate answer. I think i see your point better now, and yes, it's definitely a more nuanced topic than just "is this OK or not?" I guess

Ah, thanks for the elaborate answer. I think i see your point better now, and yes, it's definitely a more nuanced topic than just "is this OK or not?" I guess my personal gripe with most arguments against freedom of sexual orientation is that they all seem axiomatic or circular. Like, "because it's bad", "because it's anti-natural", "because this god says so", or some other chain of these that inevitably gets circular. Your example comparison with religion seems on point, but also super thorny hehe. And since i'm not religious, it doesn't resonate too much either. Sorry. I don't know if an analogy with musical preferences would be apt. Yes, it seems much more banal, but people also develop their identities around musical preferences sometimes, so it's not completely off! And if, say, i was a metalhead, then, it wouldn't matter all that much if i've felt immutable love for metal all my life, or my preferences changed over time, or i chose it for some reason, or even if i love other styles! (maybe i'm extending this analogy too much) All that matters is that it doesn't harm other people. On the contrary: i'd share my love for metal with other metal lovers. Win-win. Maybe it's a super dumb argument, but TBH that's kinda how i feel about sexual orientation or other important preferences. I just don't see the point in invalidating or not accepting other people's preferences and desires, as long as they are not harmful to others. Thanks for the exchange, and i hope this wasn't too rambly!