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There is semi-hidden animosity between the black and some Asian communities. Chinese immigrants are often the ones first moving into and then buying out people
by babesh 6y ago
There is semi-hidden animosity between the black and some Asian communities.
Chinese immigrants are often the ones first moving into and then buying out people in black neighborhoods.
Asian kids do disproportionately well in urban schools. Lowell High School is moving from a scoring based system to a lottery. Asian parents see this as unfair while black parents see the previous system as unfair.
Chinese are traditionally not seen as fighting back. Some criminals see elderly as easy marks due to the tendency to carry cash and due to their frailty.
The trade war with China has spread to demonization of Asians.
BLM riots and the lack of persecution and then the defund the police emboldened criminal activity including physical attacks.
This cycle of animosity and violence last occurred roughly 30 years ago.
I’m getting a gun.
- devmunchies 6y ago> I’m getting a gun. good luck. ammo sold out across country.
- BikiniPrince 6y agoIf you are willing to pay there are overpriced sales and limited purchase options at your local gun store. There are four million new gun owners and it will take a while for the industry to catch up.
- xenihn 6y agoFortunately we can afford scalper prices with our tech salaries.
- EForEndeavour 6y agoMake minicrossbows fashionable again.
- BikiniPrince 6y ago9mm Sig with some hollow points. Although you will likely be limited to an overpriced f&n. Welcome to the club!
- nexthash 6y agoIf I could downvote you, I would. You are promoting the use of a dangerous, lethal weapon loaded with the most damaging kind of ammunition on other people. How can you be so cruel? Edit: people seem to be downvoting my comment without context. The original commenter was advocating for the usage of a gun to kill innocent people. It disgusts me that so many people on this website seem to agree/sympathize with them.
- genericone 6y agoHollow points don't shoot through people, whereas solid slugs do. Hollow points are the most damaging for only the 1 target, because it dissipates all the damage upon impact.
- calvinmorrison 6y agoI think you're misinformed. People use hollow points to reduce over-penetration that occurs with a FMJ bullet
- nexthash 6y agoDo you really think the type of bullet matters? A bullet is a projectile whose sole purpose is to penetrate the human body at subsonic or supersonic speeds. The original commenter was advocating for carrying and using weapons that fire these bullets against innocent people. To me that's just depravity.
- userbinator 6y agoA weapon used in self-defense is by definition against someone who is not innocent. The original comment was suggesting defense, not offense.
- calvinmorrison 6y ago"lethal weapon loaded with the most damaging kind of ammunition on other people." I mean clearly you though it mattered, so I was telling you why people prefer scary sounding hollow point ammo over FMJs.
- nitrogen 6y agoI’m getting a gun. If violent people are anything like wild animals, pepper spray is safer and more effective. You actually have a good chance of hitting your attacker with a stream pepper spray, unlike with a tiny bullet. Your attacker (in the case of, say, a moose) is more likely to run away when hit with pepper than with a bullet. And you are less likely to have collateral damage.
- hpoe 6y agoJust throwing out there violent people are not like wild amnimals, and in 94% of cases simply drawing a firearm is enough to cause an attacker to flee.
- madengr 6y agoThat’s why cops carry guns, because pepper spray works so well.
- briandear 6y agoHave you ever been involved with pepper spray? It’s generally terrible for self defense. An attacker isn’t instantly incapacitated — they are still deadly until the full effects of the spray kick in. In the Army, I was trained to keep operating even amongst tear gas. It is horrible, but a violent assailant, especially multiple violent assailants aren’t going to immediately drop to the ground or run away. Being trained and proficient with a firearm is a far better strategy than hoping the attacker happens to be downwind and hoping they aren’t on meth or other drugs that make them seemingly impervious to pepper spray. Here is one example of why pepper spray is not ideal: https://mynbc15.com/news/local/mobile-woman-shot-after-pepper-spraying-shooting-suspect https://mynbc15.com/news/local/mobile-woman-shot-after-peppe... Had the lady shot the suspect, it’s unlikely that she would have been hurt.
- kazinator 6y agoPepper spray is nothing; former Canadian Prime Minister Jean Chretien puts pepper on his plate, he had us know. https://www.cbc.ca/archives/when-protest-met-pepper-spray-at-the-1997-apec-conference-1.5358298 https://www.cbc.ca/archives/when-protest-met-pepper-spray-at...
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- ipqk 6y agoSemi-hidden? Tensions between black & korean-americans was a huge part of the 1992 LA Riots.
- throwawayboise 6y agoAlso a sub-theme in Spike Lee's Do The Right Thing from the late 1980s.
- 3131s 6y agoAll ethnicities go to war with each other in LA, it's such a hell hole. Certain Mexican gangs in the 90s were targeting blacks with extreme violence, not to say that it doesn't go both ways. Still to this day there is a lot of tension between Sureno gangs and Black gangs.
- vmception 6y agoWestside is still good ... right?
- hacknat 6y ago> The trade war with China has spread to demonization of Asians. Has it really though? I agree with pretty much everything else you said (though I’m unsure if getting a gun is warranted). I don’t think a trade war with China will spur too much in the way of anti-Asian sentiment. Americans were generally able to differentiate between Russians and their government during the Cold War. I’m not saying there won’t be notable stories that pop here or there, but I don’t think this country is actually as Nativist as the press makes it out to be. We’ll see I guess. Stay safe!
- echaozh 6y agoWhat do you even mean if you call the US nativist? Native American Supremacist?
- hacknat 6y ago"Nativist" is a common historical term in the United States to mean someone who is anti-immigration and (usually) anti-immigrant, and tends to be strongly associated with white supremacy.
- niihau_island 6y ago> Americans were generally able to differentiate between Russians and their government during the Cold War. And just 20 years before that the Japanese internment camps happened.
- adultSwim 6y agoSharp contrast between concentration camps for Japanese and Japanese Americans with the treatment of Germans and Nazi sympathizers
- mbg721 6y agoThat was because the Allies expected the Germans to obey "rules of war" in the European tradition, and knew that the Japanese wouldn't. An American GI would be much happier as a POW of Germany than of Japan.
- rexpop 6y agoI am in solidarity with those Asian peoples who have been left behind by Tech Capital's H1-B cherry-picking, but I have absolutely no sympathy for Model Minority Settler Colonists Scabs who move into a neighborhood and threaten violence. Do us a favor and turn that gun on yourself, invader. You're displacing families in marginalized neighborhoods, you said it yourself. The reasons a family would immigrate here are their own, but the San Francisco Bay Area (especially Oakland) is a refuge of asylum for communities fleeing racist violence in their former homes in the South. Tech immigrants—especially those on this forum privileged by their sycophantic relationships to international Capital—spending the tech money which you were selected to receive in order to price out working class families who have been routinely and systematically denied those privileges which afford your financial leverage are an abomination. You are destroying families, and killing people with the resultant inequality. We don't want you here. You deserve to be targeted by "criminals", because your "civilized" economic warfare is the greatest crime. Edit: Yeah, yeah, yeah, "survival of the fittest," and "Kapitalismus Über Alles". You're all a bunch of sycophants for authoritarian power. You're brown-nosing suckup scabs who hate democracy, and love tyranny and that's why you love being placed in positions of privilege above all your former peers.
- stickyricky 6y agoKinda crazy there are people on this board that agree with this. I'm watching your comment grayout and un-grayout. Sad...
- rexpop 6y agoThank you for your ableist dismissal.
- babesh 6y agoYou have got your facts all wrong. I never bought into those gentrifying neighborhoods. I don’t even live in those neighborhoods. I grew up in a poor historically Chinese neighborhood. Many of the attacks are occurring historically Asian neighborhoods like that (Oakland and SF Chinatowns). What kind of gentrification are you talking about? Tech people buy into different neighborhoods from the poorer Asian immigrants. The black neighborhoods were initially gentrified by non tech working class immigrants. Think cooks, construction workers, etc who have their entire families working and who scrounge up money for a down payment. Think Hunter’s Point and the Silver District. Many of those people also fled violence in their home countries. Mine did as did a sister in law. The historically black neighborhood that is being gentrified by tech is actually Hayes Valley. That isn’t very Asian at all. Rich Asian tech isn’t moving to that neighborhood disproportionately. Rich Asian tech tends to move to suburbs and rich immigrant Asian tech moves to specific neighborhoods like Cupertino.
- vmception 6y agoHackernews starting to read like Blind App
- refurb 6y agoPretty reasonable take overall. People shouldn’t forget about the African-American and Korean animosity during the LA riots. This stuff goes way back.