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While these reporters no doubt identify with the left, and I certainly don't, this "I can't handle people talking about things in places where I can't hear and

While these reporters no doubt identify with the left, and I certainly don't, this "I can't handle people talking about things in places where I can't hear and record them" attitude is one of the least progressive mainstream ideas in recent memory and is not something I associate with progressives at all. Feels a lot more like small-mindedness.

dogman144 6y ago
What's hilarious to me re: Clubhouse getting this negative attention is that platform trends towards the very worst type of insular SV mutual pleasuring. If groundbreaking free-speech is going on in there to drive the conversation forward, I haven't seen much of it yet. I listened to about 40 minutes of a chat on SolarWinds from a lot heavy hitter defense<>tech people start with: -> how do we feel about this level of compromise v. encryption access laws (not totally related but yeah good topic, let's go there!). This was asked by a pub policy devsecops rep at GitHub, so she knew her stuff. answered first with (and I swear this is a close quote from a thought leader, startup founder and ex-Marine named "Marvin") -> freedom of expression, leads to freedom of thought, which leads to freedom of innovation, which leads to freedom of minds, which leads to... leading to: -> clubhouse uses NLP, so of course if it's free you are the producing and end somewhere far, far away from anything meaningful on SolarWinds while producing the worst type of verbal fluff from people who generally are there to self-promote their startups. I raised my hand in there to see if I could get in a question re: "hey that engineer asked a solid question 20 mins ago, I'm not sure it was ever answered." Moderators then disabled hand-raising. Half of Clubhouse is SV founders practicing their pitches on each other, and the other half is entertaining discussions of the somewhat raunchy type, i.e. "Gain your empowerment, no more casual sex!" Additionally, although this is my take away from a casual scroll of profile pictures, clubhouse has a massive diversity footprint. Finally, we have minority techies congregating in numbers, talking about their stuff! If tech reporters are really spending their time digging for the next GRU disinfo campaign there, then NYT needs its $70k a year back from those reporter salaries and should sub to FEYE's campaign reports instead.

dogman144 6y ago

What's hilarious to me re: Clubhouse getting this negative attention is that platform trends towards the very worst type of insular SV mutual pleasuring. If groundbreaking free-speech is going on in there to drive the conversation forward, I haven't seen much of it yet. I listened to about 40 minutes of a chat on SolarWinds from a lot heavy hitter defense<>tech people start with: -> how do we feel about this level of compromise v. encryption access laws (not totally related but yeah good topic, let's go there!). This was asked by a pub policy devsecops rep at GitHub, so she knew her stuff. answered first with (and I swear this is a close quote from a thought leader, startup founder and ex-Marine named "Marvin") -> freedom of expression, leads to freedom of thought, which leads to freedom of innovation, which leads to freedom of minds, which leads to... leading to: -> clubhouse uses NLP, so of course if it's free you are the producing and end somewhere far, far away from anything meaningful on SolarWinds while producing the worst type of verbal fluff from people who generally are there to self-promote their startups. I raised my hand in there to see if I could get in a question re: "hey that engineer asked a solid question 20 mins ago, I'm not sure it was ever answered." Moderators then disabled hand-raising. Half of Clubhouse is SV founders practicing their pitches on each other, and the other half is entertaining discussions of the somewhat raunchy type, i.e. "Gain your empowerment, no more casual sex!" Additionally, although this is my take away from a casual scroll of profile pictures, clubhouse has a massive diversity footprint. Finally, we have minority techies congregating in numbers, talking about their stuff! If tech reporters are really spending their time digging for the next GRU disinfo campaign there, then NYT needs its $70k a year back from those reporter salaries and should sub to FEYE's campaign reports instead.