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Does "director" mean something much lower than it sounds like? Or does "associate" mean something higher? To me, a "director" is someone who understands the bu

Does "director" mean something much lower than it sounds like? Or does "associate" mean something higher? To me, a "director" is someone who understands the business deeply, knows how to lead, take initiative, communicate very well, has years of business experience under their belt... They want to be a dev. Sure, they need to learn git, python etc. But these are not that hard at all. The harder part of being a developer is communication, making hard decisions, showing leadership. Things a director should be pretty damn good at. "Demoting" her to an associate developer is stupidly patronising.

encoderer 6y ago
> They want to be a dev. Sure, they need to learn git, python etc. But these are not that hard at all. The harder part of being a developer is communication, making hard decisions, showing leadership. Things a director should be pretty damn good at. This is really only true if you already know how to read and write code. For the vast majority of people, communication skills are easier to acquire than developer skills.
AdrianB1 6y ago
Director is a rank with very different meaning in the industry; I know people with this rank at Adobe, Amazon, Microsoft, in banks, FMCG and there is attempt from some companies to catch up with the naming of various positions versus the rest of the market, but it's gone wrong in some places, director being a pretty low position of what used to be mid level managers or worse. A "sales director" is many times just an inflated title to senior sales people with no budget to administer and no organization to manage, maybe leading a team of 2-3 junior sales guys. I know a bunch of IT directors that failed the interviews as entry level managers, so it is impossible to me to figure out what the real level of a rank is when the name is Director.

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Does "director" mean something much lower than it sounds like? Or does "associate" mean something higher? To me, a "director" is someone who understands the bu

by nottrobin 6y ago

encoderer 6y ago
> They want to be a dev. Sure, they need to learn git, python etc. But these are not that hard at all. The harder part of being a developer is communication, making hard decisions, showing leadership. Things a director should be pretty damn good at. This is really only true if you already know how to read and write code. For the vast majority of people, communication skills are easier to acquire than developer skills.
AdrianB1 6y ago
Director is a rank with very different meaning in the industry; I know people with this rank at Adobe, Amazon, Microsoft, in banks, FMCG and there is attempt from some companies to catch up with the naming of various positions versus the rest of the market, but it's gone wrong in some places, director being a pretty low position of what used to be mid level managers or worse. A "sales director" is many times just an inflated title to senior sales people with no budget to administer and no organization to manage, maybe leading a team of 2-3 junior sales guys. I know a bunch of IT directors that failed the interviews as entry level managers, so it is impossible to me to figure out what the real level of a rank is when the name is Director.