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Rust is already in Debian's repository. The trademarks haven't been an issue at all.

lvass 6y ago
It seems no one had to rebrand Rust yet, but can you guarantee this will always be the case? Firefox was fine in debian until 2006.
- ChrisSD 6y ago
  But why? Python has been going for decades without issue. https://www.python.org/psf/trademarks/ https://www.python.org/psf/trademarks/
  - a1369209993 6y ago
    No, Python is dead because the maintainers decided to create a new, defective, language with a intentionally-misleading name, and then threatened trademark lawsuits against anyone who kept maintaining the original. That sort of thing is (I assume) why lvass was asking about trademark waivers in the first place.
    - Daho0n 6y ago
      The most used programming language is dead? Please stop the FUD. Python is doing great. Calling it a new language is insane. There's way less difference than in early Cpp versus late Cpp.
- nojito 6y ago
  Mozilla Foundation != Mozilla Corporation. Which is why there was an issue with branding.
  - dralley 6y ago
    No, there was an issue with branding because Debian was diverging too much from mainline Firefox, and not keeping up to date with security patches. Not some corporate malintent. The way that was resolved was with Firefox LTS.
- forgetfulness 6y ago
  Well it'll be amusing to see the playful knockoff names that Debian will come up with when rebranding Rust. Will they go with the metal chemistry theme, go back to the original plant pathology one? https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/27jvdt/internet_archaeology_the_definitive_endall_source/ https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/27jvdt/internet_archa...
- mattl 6y ago
  The issue with Firefox was that Mozilla didn't want Debian's modified version of Firefox to be called Firefox. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_software_rebranded_by_Debian#Iceweasel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_software_rebranded_by_...

It seems no one had to rebrand Rust yet, but can you guarantee this will always be the case? Firefox was fine in debian until 2006.

ChrisSD 6y ago
But why? Python has been going for decades without issue. https://www.python.org/psf/trademarks/ https://www.python.org/psf/trademarks/
- a1369209993 6y ago
  No, Python is dead because the maintainers decided to create a new, defective, language with a intentionally-misleading name, and then threatened trademark lawsuits against anyone who kept maintaining the original. That sort of thing is (I assume) why lvass was asking about trademark waivers in the first place.
  - Daho0n 6y ago
    The most used programming language is dead? Please stop the FUD. Python is doing great. Calling it a new language is insane. There's way less difference than in early Cpp versus late Cpp.
nojito 6y ago
Mozilla Foundation != Mozilla Corporation. Which is why there was an issue with branding.
- dralley 6y ago
  No, there was an issue with branding because Debian was diverging too much from mainline Firefox, and not keeping up to date with security patches. Not some corporate malintent. The way that was resolved was with Firefox LTS.
forgetfulness 6y ago
Well it'll be amusing to see the playful knockoff names that Debian will come up with when rebranding Rust. Will they go with the metal chemistry theme, go back to the original plant pathology one? https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/27jvdt/internet_archaeology_the_definitive_endall_source/ https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/27jvdt/internet_archa...
mattl 6y ago
The issue with Firefox was that Mozilla didn't want Debian's modified version of Firefox to be called Firefox. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_software_rebranded_by_Debian#Iceweasel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_software_rebranded_by_...