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Here in Germany we have somewhat similar cases, but where the accusation is way less damaging than the case of this article, in which a false positive would hav
by qwertox 6y ago
Here in Germany we have somewhat similar cases, but where the accusation is way less damaging than the case of this article, in which a false positive would have the drastic result of being labeled a murderer.
The cases are related to new speeding cameras which work with laser, where the defendants are complaining that these new devices are black boxes, and that they demand access to the raw data which these devices process. The problem is that these devices discard the raw data after having processed it and come to a conclusion that the driver was or was not speeding.
The devices in question are Traffistar S350 from Jenoptik and PoliScan SM1 from Vitronic.
There were discussions about a required software update which retains all this data, but apparently the devices lack the storage capability to do so. The National Metrology Institute of Germany (Physikalisch-Technische Bundesanstalt (PTB)) responded to this, that they would not re-certify these devices with updated software because from their point of view they work "as specified".
- Kinrany 6y agoSurely there aren't so many speeders that storing a few seconds per violation would add up to a significant amount.
- nolok 6y agoNow all you need is the proper amount of collusion/corruption between the certifying agency and the manufacturer to have a magic box that does whatever the one paying the bills want. Might seem far fetched in a developped country, until you read about the Boeing/FAA thing happened.
- josefx 6y agoAs far as I could find the courts basically decided that there has to be a way to examine how a result was reached if there was any doubt about it. That the PTB still allowed their use didn't change that and if a case got to court the results could get thrown out. The PTB probably doesn't care because only a small percentage of speeding cases end up in court.