I think that this is a situation where the former are all server-side tools used beneath the surface to power that SaaS used by millions every day, while the la

I think that this is a situation where the former are all server-side tools used beneath the surface to power that SaaS used by millions every day, while the latter is visible in a small handful of tools used only by the tiny fraction of the population that would visit sites like HN and even then Guile is used (statistically speaking) by no one.