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One thing I find fascinating is that it feels like Common Lisp, Racket and Clojure are talked about a lot, but from the top of my head I would not be able to na

One thing I find fascinating is that it feels like Common Lisp, Racket and Clojure are talked about a lot, but from the top of my head I would not be able to name everyday software or tools written in any of them. Meanwhile I rarely encounter discussions and talk about Guile while at the same time seeing it "everywhere" (Guix, embedded scripting in GDB, Gnucash). This is just my personal feeling though.

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evgen 6y ago
I think that this is a situation where the former are all server-side tools used beneath the surface to power that SaaS used by millions every day, while the latter is visible in a small handful of tools used only by the tiny fraction of the population that would visit sites like HN and even then Guile is used (statistically speaking) by no one.
chriswarbo 6y ago
Guile is the 'official extension language' for GNU projects; i.e. for embedding into C programs, for scripting, macros, writing plugins, etc. This gives it a boost in popularity (similar to how JS got a boost from being the 'official extension language' of the Web; although on a massively different scale!) Looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Lisp#Applications https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Lisp#Applications I've personally used StumpWM and ACL2; and Cyc is a rather prominent project. One notable application that's written in Racket is Hacker News! (It's written in 'Arc', which is implemented using Racket).
- 2pEXgD0fZ5cF 6y ago
  Oh yeah I think I should add that it was certainly not my intention to downplay the more popular lisps or their applications!
pjmlp 6y ago
Not sure at which extent they still use Common Lisp, but syscog used to be a Lisp shop for their transport and trafic management software. https://www.siscog.pt/en/ https://www.siscog.pt/en/ https://franz.com/success/customer_apps/scheduling/siscog.lhtml https://franz.com/success/customer_apps/scheduling/siscog.lh... Google also became a Lisp shop when they acquired ITA https://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/02/technology/02google.html https://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/02/technology/02google.html https://franz.com/success/customer_apps/data_mining/itastory.lhtml https://franz.com/success/customer_apps/data_mining/itastory... Apple, Walmart, Baresquare, Nubank use Clojure https://www.cognitect.com/blog/2015/6/30/walmart-runs-clojure-at-scale https://www.cognitect.com/blog/2015/6/30/walmart-runs-clojur... https://jobs.apple.com/en-us/details/200184362/apple-media-products-software-engineer-clojure-java-core-service https://jobs.apple.com/en-us/details/200184362/apple-media-p... https://www.baresquare.com https://www.baresquare.com https://nubank.com.br/en/ https://nubank.com.br/en/

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evgen 6y ago

I think that this is a situation where the former are all server-side tools used beneath the surface to power that SaaS used by millions every day, while the latter is visible in a small handful of tools used only by the tiny fraction of the population that would visit sites like HN and even then Guile is used (statistically speaking) by no one.

chriswarbo 6y ago

Guile is the 'official extension language' for GNU projects; i.e. for embedding into C programs, for scripting, macros, writing plugins, etc. This gives it a boost in popularity (similar to how JS got a boost from being the 'official extension language' of the Web; although on a massively different scale!) Looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Lisp#Applications https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Lisp#Applications I've personally used StumpWM and ACL2; and Cyc is a rather prominent project. One notable application that's written in Racket is Hacker News! (It's written in 'Arc', which is implemented using Racket).

2pEXgD0fZ5cF 6y ago
Oh yeah I think I should add that it was certainly not my intention to downplay the more popular lisps or their applications!

pjmlp 6y ago

Not sure at which extent they still use Common Lisp, but syscog used to be a Lisp shop for their transport and trafic management software. https://www.siscog.pt/en/ https://www.siscog.pt/en/ https://franz.com/success/customer_apps/scheduling/siscog.lhtml https://franz.com/success/customer_apps/scheduling/siscog.lh... Google also became a Lisp shop when they acquired ITA https://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/02/technology/02google.html https://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/02/technology/02google.html https://franz.com/success/customer_apps/data_mining/itastory.lhtml https://franz.com/success/customer_apps/data_mining/itastory... Apple, Walmart, Baresquare, Nubank use Clojure https://www.cognitect.com/blog/2015/6/30/walmart-runs-clojure-at-scale https://www.cognitect.com/blog/2015/6/30/walmart-runs-clojur... https://jobs.apple.com/en-us/details/200184362/apple-media-products-software-engineer-clojure-java-core-service https://jobs.apple.com/en-us/details/200184362/apple-media-p... https://www.baresquare.com https://www.baresquare.com https://nubank.com.br/en/ https://nubank.com.br/en/