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For anyone reading this, this person is not embellishing or being a complainer as mentioned by some others here. In fact, it is actually much worse than what is

For anyone reading this, this person is not embellishing or being a complainer as mentioned by some others here. In fact, it is actually much worse than what is described here, the list would be very long if all of it is listed here. Other than the covid corruption, there are a ton of other issues too that makes everything worse (SAA, Eskom, Post Office, broken municipalities, State Capture, Telkom/Icasa, The Guptas/Zuma's/Malema's/Ace/Vbs Saga). The biggest piece that is broken in our country is our Justice system. None of the evil people will put one foot in jail. Our democracy/gov is a sham. It's just theater at this point. They are all actors, being paid to extract value from us (aka your labour). Their bosses are not in South Africa.. I saw a picture the other day of the Police Minister sitting next to Ace and having a laugh. It is revolting. That person completely raped one of the Provinces and now he sits in parliament making jokes with the person who should lock him up. Stuff like that. Loads of it. It doesn't feel like a real country anymore at all. At least until some form of justice prevails, until then it's all just lies and corruption.

dvdbloc 6y ago
Honestly it doesn’t sound too far off from the direction the USA has been currently trending
- refurb 6y ago
  This seems the statement of someone who doesn’t know that much about SA.
- BatteryMountain 6y ago
  I've had this conversation with my my mother a few times. America and South Africa are very similar, both historically and their current trajectories. We suffer from the same cultural "deadlocks" which seems nearly impossible to escape since nobody seems willing/mature enough to have a calm conversation about our shortcomings and how to fix it. There are also systemic/administrative governmental deadlocks which frustrate the problem further. A very common scenario between both countries is the huge difference between the rich & poor and between how gov operate vs how people live.
  - kabouseng 6y ago
    I have also had these same thoughts, and in some ways the USA is today where South Africa was in the late 80's. Time will tell how the USA handles its domestic crisis.
- mjburgess 6y ago
  Corruption, powergrabs, totalitarianism, factionalism and tribal warfare is on the horizon for all nations -- always has been, and always will be. The success of a nation, in my view, is how far way that horizon is -- and how keenly the ship is steered away from it.
  - nullsense 6y ago
    Beautifully put.
- WhompingWindows 6y ago
  That's a big statement. Even with the election of Biden and the Democratic capture of the Senate, you think the USA has been currently trending in the wrong direction? I harbor little love for the Dems, they could do a lot better on certain issues, however they have to be seen as the better party on climate, stimulus, and COVID, and their election gives me some hope.
luc4sdreyer 6y ago
> The biggest piece that is broken in our country is our Justice system. I completely disagree. SA faces the same problems that other countries do, just more of them at the same time. Corruption networks are hard to penetrate if it's the government itself that's corrupt. Our institutions aren't as strong as most developed countries. > Our democracy/gov is a sham Our democracy works very well. There is a lot of faith in the process and we haven't had an armed group storm the parliament (yet). The electorate is satisfied with the country being run by a corrupt party (57.5% voted ANC). This is unfortunate, but it's also the definition of democracy. People get what they vote for. That process is working very well. You (and I for that matter) don't like the outcome, but we don't represent the majority.

dvdbloc 6y ago

Honestly it doesn’t sound too far off from the direction the USA has been currently trending

refurb 6y ago
This seems the statement of someone who doesn’t know that much about SA.
BatteryMountain 6y ago
I've had this conversation with my my mother a few times. America and South Africa are very similar, both historically and their current trajectories. We suffer from the same cultural "deadlocks" which seems nearly impossible to escape since nobody seems willing/mature enough to have a calm conversation about our shortcomings and how to fix it. There are also systemic/administrative governmental deadlocks which frustrate the problem further. A very common scenario between both countries is the huge difference between the rich & poor and between how gov operate vs how people live.
- kabouseng 6y ago
  I have also had these same thoughts, and in some ways the USA is today where South Africa was in the late 80's. Time will tell how the USA handles its domestic crisis.
mjburgess 6y ago
Corruption, powergrabs, totalitarianism, factionalism and tribal warfare is on the horizon for all nations -- always has been, and always will be. The success of a nation, in my view, is how far way that horizon is -- and how keenly the ship is steered away from it.
- nullsense 6y ago
  Beautifully put.
WhompingWindows 6y ago
That's a big statement. Even with the election of Biden and the Democratic capture of the Senate, you think the USA has been currently trending in the wrong direction? I harbor little love for the Dems, they could do a lot better on certain issues, however they have to be seen as the better party on climate, stimulus, and COVID, and their election gives me some hope.

luc4sdreyer 6y ago

> The biggest piece that is broken in our country is our Justice system. I completely disagree. SA faces the same problems that other countries do, just more of them at the same time. Corruption networks are hard to penetrate if it's the government itself that's corrupt. Our institutions aren't as strong as most developed countries. > Our democracy/gov is a sham Our democracy works very well. There is a lot of faith in the process and we haven't had an armed group storm the parliament (yet). The electorate is satisfied with the country being run by a corrupt party (57.5% voted ANC). This is unfortunate, but it's also the definition of democracy. People get what they vote for. That process is working very well. You (and I for that matter) don't like the outcome, but we don't represent the majority.