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The typical internet South African tends to post extremely negative news about the country. Some of them haven't lived here in many years after immigrating to A

The typical internet South African tends to post extremely negative news about the country. Some of them haven't lived here in many years after immigrating to Australia or some place just as "racially homogenous". We are a new country only truly existing since 1994. So we need to go through the growing pains. The same pains any other country has to go through. But certain members of internet South Africa believes that these pains are due to our leaders being black rather than we are just a new country.

zo1 6y ago
I don't think "new country" and "growing pains" is a valid excuse for the absolute humanitarian disaster that has been allowed to happen in SA under the current government. And no we don't think it's because they're "black", it's because they're incompetent and evil, and care more about enriching themselves than helping their countrymen.
nevi-me 6y ago
Hi, I'm very-invested in our country, and I'm involved in social activism that helps to step in where our country lacks (as will always be the case around the world). I also mentioned in the post, that I'm an African black, precisely because of the presumption that when someone provides information about our country's failings; they must be white people from the pre-1994 days. I don't understand why you keep mentioning people who left South Africa, as I'm not one; and you'd have noted from my post, and its response to you. > But certain members of internet South Africa believes that these pains are due to our leaders being black rather than we are just a new country Perhaps this isn't the forum, but I'd really like to understand how you're arriving at this conclusion. Sure, I can accept that my post isn't relevant to the point that you've taken from the article, that the O-AZ vaccine doesn't work against the strain that we're experiencing. Would you rather censor me (when we don't know each other) under the unproven assumption that I'm a whiner?
- zingar 6y ago
  Unfortunately (you must have observed, particularly in the case of South Africa) it is not easy to accept that someone is who they say they are on the Internet. The DA is accused of running hundreds of fake accounts on twitter, and we all know about Bell Pottinger. Your question, "would you rather censor me" is the hope that I cling to, because it sounds more reasonable than troll to me.
- wesleywt 6y ago
  Well I am getting censored by you for pointing out your bias (my comment is being flagged). I also mentioned some don't live here anymore. As to being a whiner. Most of these post when South Africa is mentioned has the whiner replies heavily upvoted.
easytiger 6y ago
> We are a new country only truly existing since 1994. This is a risible excuse. SA had the infra structure, resources, processes and, thanks to Mandela, the philosophy for success in hand. Subsequent leaders threw all this in the bin in pursuit of completely visible corruption and cultural despotism and kleptocracy. These people cannot even keep the lights on.

zo1 6y ago

I don't think "new country" and "growing pains" is a valid excuse for the absolute humanitarian disaster that has been allowed to happen in SA under the current government. And no we don't think it's because they're "black", it's because they're incompetent and evil, and care more about enriching themselves than helping their countrymen.

nevi-me 6y ago

Hi, I'm very-invested in our country, and I'm involved in social activism that helps to step in where our country lacks (as will always be the case around the world). I also mentioned in the post, that I'm an African black, precisely because of the presumption that when someone provides information about our country's failings; they must be white people from the pre-1994 days. I don't understand why you keep mentioning people who left South Africa, as I'm not one; and you'd have noted from my post, and its response to you. > But certain members of internet South Africa believes that these pains are due to our leaders being black rather than we are just a new country Perhaps this isn't the forum, but I'd really like to understand how you're arriving at this conclusion. Sure, I can accept that my post isn't relevant to the point that you've taken from the article, that the O-AZ vaccine doesn't work against the strain that we're experiencing. Would you rather censor me (when we don't know each other) under the unproven assumption that I'm a whiner?

zingar 6y ago
Unfortunately (you must have observed, particularly in the case of South Africa) it is not easy to accept that someone is who they say they are on the Internet. The DA is accused of running hundreds of fake accounts on twitter, and we all know about Bell Pottinger. Your question, "would you rather censor me" is the hope that I cling to, because it sounds more reasonable than troll to me.
wesleywt 6y ago
Well I am getting censored by you for pointing out your bias (my comment is being flagged). I also mentioned some don't live here anymore. As to being a whiner. Most of these post when South Africa is mentioned has the whiner replies heavily upvoted.

easytiger 6y ago

> We are a new country only truly existing since 1994. This is a risible excuse. SA had the infra structure, resources, processes and, thanks to Mandela, the philosophy for success in hand. Subsequent leaders threw all this in the bin in pursuit of completely visible corruption and cultural despotism and kleptocracy. These people cannot even keep the lights on.