> This wasn't considered a particularly invasive change at the time. It was pretty invasive - I tried to keep using Debian without systemd, but indirect depend

> This wasn't considered a particularly invasive change at the time. It was pretty invasive - I tried to keep using Debian without systemd, but indirect dependencies always brought it in. Until I switched to Devuan. And the dependencies brought in EVERYTHING. You could no longer mix and match, pick one part from here if it worked for you, and another part from there. Which lead to the criticism that "systemd is not modular". Which Poettering denied, pointing out that there are modules at systemd-compile time, completely missing the point. > So, more or less, people resent systemd because it's difficult to find - or build - a distro without it. And I wouldn't have minded systemd as an INIT SYSTEM - the existing scripts WERE pretty bad. But systemd is like the Borg - it tries to assimilate everything. And it broke quite a bit of existing functionaility along this path.