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I whole-heartedly agree with this post! I like the emphasis on value vis a vis the free tier upgrade path. Here’s an anecdote about Notion that I posted on the
by jitl 6y ago
I whole-heartedly agree with this post! I like the emphasis on value vis a vis the free tier upgrade path. Here’s an anecdote about Notion that I posted on the related HN topic “Don’t offer a free plan” [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26059517 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26059517], [original post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26060141 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26060141]
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At Notion, we used to have a limited free plan where we only allowed users to create 1000 blocks (pages/paragraphs/embeds/checkboxes/database rows) before we directed them to upgrade to the "Personal Pro" plan. Supporting free users dealing with the block limit was a major headache, just as described in the OP, but more importantly the Personal Pro plan was kind of a dead end - few users converted to Pro, and those that did weren't worth much, since the Pro plan is pretty cheap and doesn't have much network effect.
We took a hard look at that free personal plan and how it worked with our goals. Instead of phasing it out, we decided to make it unlimited - now personal users can make as many blocks as they want [https://www.notion.so/personal https://www.notion.so/personal]. But importantly, we also switched up our segmentation at the same time: we restricted the personal plans' collaboration model and created a new "Team Trial" plan, with the same 1000 block limit, but with all the teamwork features included. Another thing to note about our Team Trail is that it's not time-limited at all, teams can keep trialing Notion until it has clear value to them. We have many fewer users frustrated by the block limit, but those who are are much more valuable, and are getting a lot more out of Notion -- when they upgrade, it's to a Team plan with strong network effects and a path to future expansion.
And all those (now) very happy users on the free plan? They're like jonpurdy [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26059666 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26059666] - they'll take Notion into their (future) teams and workplaces, even though in the shorter term they're a strain on our systems.
My advice is - there's more nuance to this than "MAKE IT FREE" vs "DON'T MAKE IT FREE". Think about how you structure upgrade incentives around value, and about how your free plans fit into your overall market strategy.
- lmeyerov 6y agoSlack was the "aha" for me on understanding an underlying mechanism here for freemium->paid. Freemium needs to cover trialing up until the point of an adoption decision. However, the adoption decision isn't about continuing to use the tool. We're in a 'prosumer' world, so the purchasing decision flip is instead about when a user both operationally and mentally phases from b2c -> b2b, meaning changes both in how they're using it and the value they're noticing. Ex: In Slack's case, it is a team liking it enough that they start having substantive conversations, and when prompted, view paying for a search history to be more than reasonable for a work environment. If they aren't getting commercial value from those comms, they can keep using for free until they do. Ex: In ^^^ Notion's case, a 1000 block limit may not signify anyone cares beyond entertainment value. But as soon as you want to do secure sharing with colleagues for a lot of work, you're probably doing valuable stuff, and are fine paying as long as reasonable. Ex: Twilio is ~free for developers as they prove value, but org pays when it gets real. So it is less about trialing -> addicted, and more about trialing -> committed & appreciates generated work value. The lazy version of this is "addicted individual -> addicted team", so I expect pricing models to roughly follow that. Sort of like a modern version of "Enterprise means SSO so charge more for that", except now more closely aligned with utilization... which is a good thing.
- mattbuilds 6y agoSlack is the one that clicked for me as well. I used it with some friends just to try it out. Then at work our small team used the free version, without anyone's permission, just to play around and see how we liked it. Turns out another team did the same thing and we decided to merge the workspaces. Then some upper level people got wind, saw it was going well, and soon after the entire 200 person company was on it. Not saying our team was responsible for the purchase, but it clearly helped Slack gain a foothold as "a tool we use".
- naravara 6y agoTo build off this a little more, another pattern I see pretty often is for people to pilot things on personal projects and then, when they come on board a team, suggest their favored personal toolkits at work. Simply creating the familiarity with the tool can help enormously in this case, even if it would probably take a couple of years or more to really pay dividends. I've found this to especially be the case with new hires who are fresh out of college or graduate school. They have experience setting up platforms for the group projects they do in school and they can often work pretty well for a small team if implemented with intention. It's not actually so different from Adobe's strategy of somewhat turning a blind-eye to piracy from college students knowing that when they graduate into being design professionals they'll have business expenses they're willing to splurge with.
- lmeyerov 6y agoone more I liked here: early GitHub free for public / oss projects, pay for private - most personal projs and oss are covered: like slack, that supports successful viral collab! - but as soon as you are doing commercial work and want that privacy (eg, you are being paid to do it), ok to charge a bit they eventually got big enough that they could wait even longer to charge. squeezing a few $/mo from tiny accounts doesn't matter if that causes churn before bigger adoption. for a co that straddles both smb + enterprise (1% of customers are 50% of revenue?), that is a suggestive trend for prosumer freemium another good article here is Greylock's Unit of Value essay
- davidjgraph 6y agoNot that you wrote it, do you think the article means to say Notion has unseated Confluence? Do you agree? :)